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[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 269 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Because stirring up hate against vulnerable minorities, by positioning them as a threat is a well tested and effective technique for the power hungry to gain and retain power. And it's effective, because it works by pulling people in and making all of the conversation about whether or not it's right to hate on the group they're targeting.

[–] Don_Dickle@lemmy.world 99 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The more I read these comments it sound like the USA is entering its Hitler phase.

[–] resin85@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago

https://www.faena.com/aleph/umberto-eco-a-practical-list-for-identifying-fascists

In an essay published in the New York Review of Books, Umberto Eco distilled the 14 typical elements of “Ur-Fascism or Eternal Fascism,” while warning that, “These features cannot be organized into a system; many of them contradict each other and are also typical of other kinds of despotism or fanaticism. But it is enough that one of them be present to allow fascism to coagulate around it.”

  • The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”

  • The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense, Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”

  • The cult of action for action’s sale. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.” Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture, the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”

  • Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.” Appeal to social frustration. “[…] one of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.

  • The obsession with a plot. “The followers must feel besieged. The easiest way to solve the plot is the appeal to xenophobia.”

  • The enemy is both weak and strong. “[…] the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”

  • Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”

  • Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”

  • Everybody is educated to become a hero. “in Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”

  • Machismo and Weaponry. “This is the origin of machismo (which implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality). Since even sex is a difficult game to play, the Ur-Fascist hero tends to play with weapons—doing so becomes an ersatz phallic exercise.”

  • Selective Populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.

  • Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 60 points 1 day ago

They very much are...

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Hell we used to genocide and enslave the people we looked down on. Talking ill of them on Fox News is a step up, my friend.

[–] Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Spot on. The fucking bathroom issue I keep hearing kills me. They are in there to take a shit Karen not to pass you brownies though the stalls and play a game of peak a boo above the stalls

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I still don't understand their claims that bathroom segregation makes anyone "safer"

Do they think there's some kind of law on the books that says "Anyone who matches the gender on the sign can diddle anyone inside they want!" cause that's how they act.....

Personally I find it silly that bathrooms are segregated at all when stalls exist.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Personally I find it silly that bathrooms are segregated at all when stalls exist.

You mean the 3-foot particle board separator with a 2-foot gap at the bottom and a solid inch of space around the entire door, the gap large enough to make eye contact with someone at the sink while you're sitting with your pants down?

Because that's what passes for a "stall" in 99% of America. Privacy never even came into the conversation when they designed those damn things. They are designed to give the bare minimum illusion of privacy while still being easily stared through to make sure no one is doing drugs in your bathroom. At any point in time any employee of any company has a right to come into the bathroom, peer through the crack in the door and make sure you're in there dropping a dook properly and not say, shooting up heroin. And you can't stop them even if you wanted to, the stalls are designed to make that possible.

So, with that knowledge, I sort of almost understand the people that get all up in arms about this. Because there is almost NO expectation of privacy in ANY American public bathroom. If we had European style stalls this would never have been a problem in the first place. But because anybody can just walk up and literally make eye contact from outside the stall while you've got your pants down, some folks can be understandably concerned about that.

That doesn't excuse any of this mess and it doesn't make them correct, but non-americans don't realize how shoddy our typical public restroom is. The anger at trans folks should instead be directed at the cheap-ass building contractors that mandate bathrooms that don't give you privacy.

Edit: These are what I'm used to seeing.

If you're tall, your eye level is over the top of that door. If you're a young kid, the bottom of the door doesn't even start until your chest or shoulders. If you're medium height the gap around the door is your peephole, whether you want it to be or not.

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 36 points 1 day ago

A combination of 'scapegoat' and 'them vs us', basically.

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

It is also exceedingly important to note that plenty on the Right don't explicitly hate Trans people. That's a rhetoric. They may be worried about some of the news "reports" and """stories""", had to triple quote that one, and yes the radical Right and MAGA do buy in hard and hate due to racial and superiority bullshit. What so many on the Right who are on the fence about these things are truly scared of...

Is having an opinion that deviates from the people around them who they've known probably all their lives. Unlike us on the Left who hiss and spit at one another every time one of us has a family gathering, many on the Right fear alienating their social circles.

If you ever want to change the mind of someone on the Right you really just need to soothe their rabid, horrid, twisted by those around them, frothing soul of an angry jackass and make them feel as if they can actually believe something else could be the truth.

But by GOD can it be tiring.