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[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cool. Places like Aldis will continue not-fucking their customers while walmart will continue doing the same shit it always has, fucking over poor people and small business owners.

Dont shop at walmart if you can help it. Or kroger. Or any other shitty american company thats profit driven.

Cool trick y'all can do: if profit is the clear main goal, that company is garbage no matter what they do.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Can you provide a list of companies that are not profit driven?

Here is my list:

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Migros, in Switzerland. Literally a non profit chain of supermarkets. It can happen.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also Bosch, technically, in a weird and roundabout way.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

94% of Bosch is owned by the Robert Bosch Stiftung GmbH, which is a charitable organization. They take a significant fraction, nearly half, of the profits not reinvested back into the company or distributed to founding family members and use the money for philanthropic purposes. And for the record, the portion distributed to heirs is comparatively tiny, like a quarter of a percent overall.

Most of the profits are indeed reinvested back into the company, but for the purposes of R&D and keeping the lights on, not appeasing shareholders.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Very cool and good to know. Makes me feel better about those fucking buy it for life wiper blades I just spent too much money on. I'd argue still profit motivated but sounds like a relatively good company given capitalism.

Edit: big woof -- they apparently wrote, maintained, and distributed the fake-emissions-reporting systems used by VW and others. If thats not profit motivated then I don't think I can trust anything. Founder was a big trump supporter too, the wiki says Bosch parts were in every maga tank in the 1940s.

[–] Godwins_Law@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

.... what is a maga tank....?

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The ones with the weird crosses with bent arms and lightning bolts on the side.

[–] AhismaMiasma@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Legally, it's the fiduciary duty of any publicly traded corporation to seek higher returns every year for their shareholders.

So... yeah, that list will effectively stay empty.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I like your propaganda. Its quick and easy, but wrong. Check your sources.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

OP's right. Sorta. Partially. OK, you're right, it was a simplistic take.

Where people get it wrong is that that duty is not written in stone, and certainly not in the law or courtroom. The "duty" is more like, "Don't fuck us financially on purpose or through incompetence."

The CEO of my last company told the board, 2-years in a row, that he intended to lose money while we ramped up personnel and improved our products. They applauded him. We fucked up and made record profits instead. LOL. We all got fat(ter) Christmas bonuses.

(Lemmy will not believe that with a solid, non-greedy leader (a.k.a the useless CEO), a company can treat customers like gold, treat employees like gold and still make money.)

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I think the problem is that people assume every business in america has their first priority as making as much money as possible. The fact non-profits exist should be a clue they are wrong, IMO.