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The U.S. conservative political commentor Candace Owens was refused a visa to enter New Zealand for a speaking engagement because she had been banned from another country, immigration officials said Thursday.

News of the ruling came weeks after neighboring Australia also rejected her visa request, citing remarks in which she denied Nazi medical experimentation on Jews in concentration camps during World War II.

Owens is scheduled to speak at a series of events in several Australian cities and in Auckland, New Zealand, in February and March next year. Tickets remain on sale and there is no acknowledgement on the promoter’s website that she has been refused entry to both countries.

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[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

That's Future President Candace Owens to you.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

So that's a fun question:

Can the right's motivational spite overcome its immense racism?

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 7 points 4 weeks ago

I don't think so, let alone overcome its misogyny.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

I made fun of Trump before he was elected.

I’ll never over estimate US voters again.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I won't underestimate US racism though. I don't think even a right-wing black woman could be elected president.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I grew up in a deep red county in Texas.

A few years ago I already had co-workers from that area talking about Candace Owens, saying they'd wish she would run.

The left is over-indexing on racism. The right doesn't care what the person parroting their idiotic talking points looks like.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A few co-workers does not a nation make.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This over-indexing on racism will have the left concentrating on the wrong things.

I can’t keep you from doing it. Just a warning.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It is not "over-indexing" to say that the U.S. is an incredibly racist country and Republicans are especially problematic in that area. Those are just facts.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2019/04/09/race-in-america-2019/

Your anecdotal examples of co-workers does not trump data. Sorry.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

You spoke of "facts" and then linked me a survey. After I asserted that lefties are wrong in their assessment of how the right sees race in relation to politics.

I believe Pew is a good source to get a good idea about what people think. This does not, however, mean ~~they~~ survey respondents are correct in their assessment or correctly ascribe racial motivation to a particular political party.

In fact, I believe you know this, given what's in your source:

And when it comes to views about racial discrimination, 78% of white Democrats say the bigger problem is people not seeing it where it really does exist, while a similar share of white Republicans say people seeing racial discrimination where it really does not exist is the bigger problem.

Who's right? It can't be both.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Democrats are right. Why is this even a question? Ask almost any person of color since you seem to think anecdotes trump data.

I mean for fuck's sake, the country just elected a racist who is putting a bunch of racists in his cabinet.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ask almost any person of color since you seem to think anecdotes trump data.

I can see what they think by reading your source.

I mean for fuck’s sake, the country just elected a racist who is putting a bunch of racists in his cabinet.

Is the election of Obama proof positive of the US' lack of racism? Or does it not work both ways?

Regardless, my assertion is that (most) people didn't vote for him because of his racism. They voted for him in spite of his racism because they actually think he'll make the country better. You and I know damn well Trump isn't going to make anything better but that doesn't stop them from believing it (sound familiar?).

Do you believe that Republicans, given the choice between Candice Owens and $whiteLeftyOrDem, Republicans are going 3rd party or voting $whiteLeftyOrDem? I assert they'd vote for Candice.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

Ask almost any person of color since you seem to think anecdotes trump data.

I did too. Thought it would be more of a clowns falling over administration. Not demons in the sewer murdering children.