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To my mind, Ban has always meant permanent.
"You're banned from this place! You'll never be allowed in again!"

While I've always thought of Suspend as being temporary.
"You're being suspended from school for 1 week, over fighting."

Ban:

  1. to prohibit especially by legal means
  2. bar entry

Suspend:

  1. to debar temporarily especially from a privilege, office, or function
  2. a: to cause to stop temporarily
    b: to set aside or make temporarily inoperative
  3. to defer to a later time on specified conditions
  4. to hold in an undetermined or undecided state awaiting further information

When I hear someone mention they were banned my reaction is: "Holy shit! WTF did you do to earn that!" Then I find out it was only for a day or three: "Oh... That's not a Ban! That's minor. Go touch grass. You'll be fine."

I've been banned from subreddits and communities a few times. At least once I never even noticed because it was so short.

How is it a Ban if I didn't even notice?

Why did Ban in online forums and games, come to mean temporary?

Is it simply an example of the intensification of language? To make something mundane, seem more severe than it is?

Does it bother anyone else? Or am I alone here?

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[–] missingno@fedia.io 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Your question is built on a faulty assumption, so I simply answered with another question that would more accurately reflect what we're discussing.

You gave me a word which only means temporary, which is very much not what I am looking for. Do you understand what the difference is?

You're hung up on the assumption you've made that anything that isn't explicitly defined as temporary must be permanent, failing to consider that a word could simply mean neither. This assumption is on you, no one else has made this assumption and a dozen people have all explained to you why that's not so. No one else is having trouble with the word but you!

You made this thread to ask a question, got answered, and proceeded to reject every single answer given to you. Why make the thread at all if you've already made up your mind that the rest of the world is wrong?

[–] Steve -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The thing is, nothing is permanent in an absolute sense. (Maybe logic, but that's about it)
So in a world where everything changes, what does permanent mean? It can only mean reasonably mean, "without predetermined end." Not that it won't end, because everything does eventually.

So Temporary must be that which does have predetermined end time.

Since Provisional does not have a predetermined end, but does include an explicit indication of eventually ending, it is both permanent and temporary.

You made this thread to ask a question, got answered.

Not really. A couple of people tried to answer it. One did quite well. You and yours are all simply saying I'm wrong, and my question is invalid; Simply because for your entire life I imagine, Ban has always been used this way. But some 20 or 30 years ago, I can promise you (so can a few others here) it wasn't that way.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well if nothing is permanent, then I guess the word ban doesn't have to be either.

[–] Steve -1 points 3 weeks ago

It isn't. Eventually the English language will die out. So will the sun.

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago

Top fucking tier trolling, I'm so impressed. Or autism? I'm thoroughly entertained either way