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From reading their posts, op is either sarcastic to a degree that does not play well on the Internet, or continually dip their toes into communities with highly charged opinions and then acts surprised when their peers take offense.
The transmedicalism accusation is borderline spurious and I think the accusations is extreme given what I read (they're more taking note of the difference between fashion expression and gender. They're not saying who is it isn't trans to gatekeep, they're presenting the idea that some people might be less confused and make different life choices if more people tolerated traditionally-gendered subjects (like clothing and makeup) from anyone without judgement
OP was helping people find meth on the dark web in the ADHD community and when their posts were removed they posted the same again.
Are you exaggerating when you say meth? Were they helping people who couldn't afford medication find prescription medicine at reasonable prices? Or was it literally street meth?
No. I was helping people practice harm reduction if they do get amphetamine - be it Adderall or LisDex formulation like Vyvanse/Elvanse without the oversight of a medical professional or pharmacist and explaining that it is a possibility, and that instead of the war on drugs type approach of claiming it's simply not real, we should take care of our own with solidarity, e.g. explaining how to get proper purity tests to ensure you are not consuming meth, how to find reliable and semi-trustworthy sources, avoid scams etc.
Just comveying things I learned the hard way - from experience - while waiting on the NHS for a prescription that I have now and having to keep my life together to keep my job etc in the meanwhile.
I did the same for my own IRL gf who suffered from meds shortages, and I did the same for the trans community back in the day and I stand by it.
Edit: I genuinely cannot understand how this can be downvoted by anyone of sound mind whatsoever. Every single person I know with ADHD self-medicates or has self-medicated with darknet amph or supplemented during shortages due to healthcare system fuckups, but they are shit at it, getting god knows what miscallenous powders and suffering.
How could someone ever possibly disagree with promoting harm reduction practices, yet agree with a sensationalist comment that equates ADHD medication to meth? How can you actually think at all, and arrive at such a conclusion?
The opinions on the morality of harm reduction are irrelevant. The ADHD community on Lemmy is not the appropriate place to spread that knowledge for a ton of reasons that have nothing to do with the morality of harm reduction.
I'm not surprised you got banned. You were putting the administration and moderation team in a very difficult position. You should have simply stated 'I have knowledge about X. Contact me on direct messages or Session/Signal/Matrix for details'
For the record I completely agree with your position on harm reduction
If that's not the appropriate place to spread such information, then what is? If anything to me that's what such places should be about.
It's not your space to make that decision for. You are not the one who has potential problems if it draws negative attention. You aren't the one responsible if server admins choose to block that community due to the law-breaking information you're making available.
The appropriate place to share information that clearly instructed people on how to break the law is in private, or in a space you have created and control yourself.
It's uncool to demand others allow you to use spaces they are in charge of like this. Have a little respect for the people who actually created these spaces.
Idk, I think it's just kinda cringe honestly to be this overly-cautious on a relatively unknown forum no one cares about but fair enough, it's on the admins, it's their decision and their space, I won't respect them for that decision, though.
Fwiw to clarify, I did not link to DNMs and vendors and give instructions on the specifics of where and how to acquire illicit drugs, which is where for instance the issue becomes rule-breaking on places like /r/Drugs or /r/TransDIY, presumably to align with where it becomes legally troublesome, and used that as a baseline.
I don't agree with the determination either, and I definitely wouldn't run my own community that way
But I'm also a community admin elsewhere and have been doing that kind of stuff for like 25 years or something.
So I don't really begrudge any admin for deciding what things are off-limits for their community. It's up to me whether I participate there or not
Fair!
Bold claim, asserting that whoever downvoted you thought before doing it. Humans short-circuit all the time, nothing you can do about that, and getting bitter or exasperated won't help, either. Deal with it. If you want you can start your comments with something universally agreeable, that always helps, and only then get into details. "Universally agreeable" as in "agreeable to both truth and all false notions anyone on earth has at the moment". If you want to get idiots to listen you have to start out on a common ground that they share.
More specifically, in this case, you could've started your comment with a short rant about the state of availability of ADHD medication.
I'm not bitter, ultimately none of this affects me in the selfish sense, just lightly perplexed. I appreciate your explanation. Figures most people just have kneejerk reactions.
The trans whatever thing seems like something I've wondered, and now I know better than to state any such opinions online.
Trying to talk about it online is like trying to talk about jews and Israel without being called an antisemite. You better have a lot of time to explain exactly what you mean.
Don't discuss sensitive topics under handle tied to your person, government and pro Israel groups are tracking all of this and they will try to ruin your life. Other topics attract similar behavior.
Also, with Israel's conduct, they should be explaining themselves but that's just an opinion. But i think larger society should position themselves properly re Israel. We can't justify genocide because Hitler killed million of people some of which were jews 80 years ago. Mainstream narrative feels like a justification for the current genocide.
When an identity seems to be defined by appearance/presentation to those who don't understand it personally, assuming the identity would occur less frequently if social norms were less restrictive does make sense. Like personally I don't think drag would be a thing if it wasn't a bit of a response to gender norms. I mean even if society didn't care about which gender wears which clothes some guys would get dolled up and even do essentially the same performative thing because some people just love to perform, but it wouldn't be the same thing that drag is now and it wouldn't be controversial to bigots. I mean women wearing pants was a huge fucking deal for no real reason and nobody really cares anymore.
But using clothing choices as a reason someone might be trans misses the point that a lot of trans people wore jeans and t shirts before and after transitioning because there is far more to it than the superficial appearance of clothing choice.
I think reading it as "clothing choices as a reason someone might trans" is reductive of the point being made
That was not the point being made at all. Precisely the opposite, that being trans *** is not *** about clothing choices, but a physical characteristic of suffering from sex dysphoria over specific physical traits that goes away when those traits are corrected. This is my experience as a trans person.
On the other hand being gender fluid and identifying with other GNC subcultures is not about such physical issues.
That said there could be better ways to show info like this on the fediverse. Except, it's complicated.
You could be banned on an instance, but also separately banned on an individual community on an instance, or your instance could be defederated from one running a community. Any of which could lock you out in theory.
It's not as clear cut as closed systems. This is mostly a good thing but for clarity, not so much :p
This is jsut kind of what happens if you dip into random posts on thr global feed. There is a mix of generalist Lemmy sites that expect people to behave like they're on Reddit, and everything's just a free for all, and insular sites that are focused on a narrower community, operating more like independent forums.
Stepping into one of these spaces, and treating it like a big, open one is going to get you tossed on your ass like you're DJ Jazzy Jeff in an Uncle Phil convention.
You need to be aware of what community you are engaging with around here, because it might not want your participation. That is not power tripping, that is just being unwelcoming.
Exactly this. And some of these communities have very good reasons for being insular in order to protect specific goals they have established.
I don't use the global feed, only subscribed and sorting by scaled - always.
All of the communities I've been banned from I'm a long-time subscriber and lurker in with a genuine interest in the subject matter, or I wouldn't look at them in the first place.
I have no horse in this race, but I can see the transmedicalism claim
Yeah that's is definitely not well presented, but I'm willing to assume good intent here I think? Like, I can get behind the difference between people who are suffering due to dysphoria being fundamentally different than people who are suffering from the expectations placed by society on their gender. And I feel like that was at the heart of their statement, despite the presentation being awful
Idk, I felt like I presented that as politely and diplomatically as possible, but perhaps my entire scale is just utterly off.
The problem is that a gender & sexuality based on a spectrum makes it extremely hard to define things, which is something humans just naturally do and why we ended up with the binary way of it. But if we have a spectrum ranging from masculine to feminine, then we suddenly have not just trans people, but also those who may identify & look like the opposite gender, but don't want to fully transition (i.e. keep their birth sex). You basically have anything in between the two binary categories now, and that is consequently muddy on top of being new and foreign for most people and even often within trans communities. Doesn't help that research on those topics is also still fairly early and definitions can change rather quickly at times, making it hard to keep up with it.
OP might be a classic internet troll. Those like to stir up arguments and some small drama. They're not necessarily sarcastic or surprised or anything. That's just a means to get people agitated and react a certain way.
NGL this is true to an extent, but it's not to just get a reaction but to get people to think.
Fundamentally all content on the internet lives and dies by attention, and the presentation of an attention-grabbing hot take even when the underlying point is an extremely common and sensible position is just a way to get people to think.
It's the same way YouTube video titles work too, often an absurd question that has an obvious answer is a pretext to fleshing out the details and discussing said obvious answer.
Yeah, judging by your comments, you're not a classic troll. I couldn't judge from your original post, because you could either genuinely not know about the global modlog and the text area at the top to put your username in... Or post this for another reason. And I mean I was right and you got quite some reaction and attention specifically to your person. And that'd be something a troll would feed from.
Idk. I think things like posting something out of ulterior motives, like not meaning literally what you write, but instead writing something to make people (re)think something... Or playing advocatus diaboli... Or other things like that are closely related to trolling. It's not the same. But everything is a spectrum anyways.
And in that regard idk why I got downvoted. I didn't say you are a troll. I said think about OP, they could have a hidden motive like if they were a troll...