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[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

[…] it’s not reasonable, efficient or practical to expect everybody to access their news like a professional journalist does.

I agree, but I don't think that that's a valid argument in defense of a journalist not citing their claims.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago

No, it's an argument against some of the proposed remedies.

The step you're skipping over is that citing a claim by itself doesn't do much to guarantee its veracity if the reader of the citation isn't willing to get in touch with the source of the citation and verify its content. Citations aren't magical. As you're using them in this conversation they are merely a tool for a peer review to be able to verify a bunch of precedent information without having to include it all in the same place every time.

The difference between journalistic information and peer review in science is that news are supposed to have gone through a journalistic verification process first, which the reader trusts based on the previous operation of the news outlet. A paper is presented to go through peer review and published after it has gone through that process.