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It is clear that the signal to noise ratio of the WWW is getting worse. It's much harder to find good content when using a good old search engine. And if it's good it is usually hosted on Reddit or Stackexchange.

So remember, even if it's easy too Google something (well, it isn't nowadays), we want to create a fediverse of good content that helps people (I hope). So, it's always better to write a real answer if you have the time and energy. Please help boost the SNR and reverse the AI fueled information degradation loop.

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[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 21 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I did, bc reddit locked up my content, and wanted to use it to train a LLM.

Let people ask again, here, in the fediverse.

[–] hono4kami@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

(already had a feeling that someone will say this)

I won't delete my posts/comments because I want to be helpful, that's it.

But if I prefer deleting my posts/comments, I will archive it instead.

I respect what r/ArtFundamentals did, and it should be an example: After reddit's APIpocalypse, they don't support reddit and decided to close the subreddit. But the advices from the subreddit wasn't gone--in fact they actually archive it in their own website:

https://drawabox.com/r/artfundamentals/

[–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I wrote a script (well, modified one of my old bots) to copy and archive all of my comments before editing them. I left a note in the comments for how to find me in case they wanted the original comment. I felt like that was a fair compromise

[–] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That’s assuming we’re able to draw the people with answers here into the fediverse, in the long run.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

What gets us there is long term stability.

Grow organically, and they will come.

First, the tech enthusiasts, then tech journos, then normal journos, then normals.

It's how online spaces grow.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just search for obscure shitty pocketknife models and my dinkum pictures from here are among the top results, sometimes even #1. I therefore conclude that this is not outside the realm of possibility.

[–] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Is it the mantis? I had to use kagi and set it to fediverse for it to pop up for me. On firefox and google it it nowhere to be seen for me.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sadly, DuckDuckGo really sucks ass at searching the fediverse.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Lemmy+don%27t+reply+just+google+it&t=fpas&ia=web

Even if you type in the exact words of the post, it will display 1 post and that is it, then switch to other sources. Probably because of all of the different server names that aren't Lemmy.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

On the bright side, while the top instance hit for "Lemmy" in a Google search is "lemmy.ml", the top DDG hit is "Lemmy.World". Not only does LW have ~80% of all Lemmy users but it also shows a default post sort using All rather than Local as ML does. Thus while the chief takeaway from a normie user going to ML is "wow, these guys really hate the USA/Western world" and "bUt BoTh SiDeS eQuAl ThO", the takeaway from using DDG to find LW is a much more positive experience of "Lemmy".

So if DDG searches of Lemmy are not always better than Google, they are least sometimes are.:-)

[–] Womble@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Reddit lost nothing when you deleted your comments, they still exist on their servers and are likely being used to train LLMs now. All that was lost was other peoples ability to readt them

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And without my.comment, fewer hits because users cannot see it, which means less people provide training data.

No single drop feels responsible for the flood.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sure thats correct, but I'm a little uneasy with the idea of "burn down a useful resource for people becuase fewer people helped people results in slower increases of data to Reddit"

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

A trap for people isn't something I'd consider "useful".

Just like a pedo van offering free food to kids... sure kids get fed, but at what cost?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

That does hurt Reddits usability for users, though, which is bad for business in general.