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Wait-a-minute Wednesday: To draw attention towards a situation or decision which bares further scrutiny.

For example: the crew of the Defiant not stopping Captain Sisko from committing acts of terrorism in order to prevent other atrocities being carried out by the Maquis.

So let's dig up the decidedly bone-head commands made by any characters throughout the Continuum, aside from the tried and true Tuvixian methodology. Or do, just provided there's a fresh/skewed take to be had.

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[–] sxan@midwest.social 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Spock in Strange New Worlds does T'Pring exceedingly wrong, which - while justifying her later behavior in TOS - made me mad. That's not the Spock we knew and loved.

I don't know why every writer after Roddenberry had to make Spock such a slut. It's entirely against canon, and violates the very idea of Pon Farr, which - half-breed though he is, Spock is demonstrably susceptible to.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also, Spock is clearly not into Nurse Chappel in TOS despite her pining over him. That annoyed me in SNW. It's okay to have unrequited love in a story.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I actually think they nailed it, in Strange New Worlds.

The plot in Strange New Worlds had been my head canon for decades, because of Majel Barret's performance as Nurse Chapel in TOS.

Once or twice, nurse chapel gives Spock "fuck me" eyes, and isn't bothered by his lack of reaction.

I always thought this was Majel Barret's way of intentionally implying a scandalous tumultuous past relationship that would never be approved on 1960s TV.

The fact that TOS Spock has virtually no reaction, other than obvious fondness for her, is largely due to Spock being TOS Spock.

I think a lot of folks assumed that Nurse Chapel was pining for the exotic aliens unrequited love - which I think is certainly part of Majels intent n in her performance.

But TOS Nurse Chapel is very emotionally intelligent. (Mainly to contrast Bones and Spock who are not.) Due to her high emotional intelligence, I was always inclined to believe that TOS Chapel probably knew what she was doing when she threw "we could still fuck (again?) sometime" eyes at Spock.

We all think she has no chance, but Nurse Chapel knows Spock better than we do.

And TOS Spock is incapable of acknowledging it, but probably still appreciates the gesture.

Edit: The SNW Spock and Chapel story makes me happy, because I think it's exactly what Majel Barret intended to imply, during filming of TOS. I agree it doesn't fit everyone else's creative vision, but it makes me happy that hers became official canon.

[–] Charapaso@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Him not being the Spock we know is kind of the point though, right?

He was a little messier before he got himself together. His human side maybe is less bound by Pon Farr rules, and he's not yet the hyper competent officer we love in his later years.

He screws up and then that becomes a motivating reason to control himself is pretty compelling, to me at least. He did go a little buck wild helping out Pike in TOS, so he's certainly still got a wild streak in him.

[–] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have to say that in Amok Time - she did way more than get back at him. She had him fight arguably his only friend to the death. T'Pring fulfilled the whole "hurt princess" trope to the letter. She wound up being the much less mature of the two (at least from Earth standards).

[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 6 days ago

Which is also not the same T'Pring from SNW.

Don't get me started on the Gorn.