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Assuming I have a time horizon >10 years.

Edit: thanks for all the replies!!

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[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, there aren't many ethics in the world when it comes to money.

[–] Tehdastehdas@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Several funds in my bank have ESG in the name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental,_social,_and_governance
Other terms in their fund names: fossil-free, climate, forest, sustainable agriculture.

Their claims about them:
in Finnish:
https://www.s-pankki.fi/fi/private-banking-ja-varainhoito/vastuullisuus-ja-vaikuttavuus/vastuullisuus-sijoittamisessa/
in Swedish:
https://www.s-pankki.fi/sv/private-banking-och-kapitalforvaltning/ansvarsfullhet-och-paverkan/ansvarsfulla-investeringar/
For machine translation, probably better use Swedish as the source because it shares the Indo-European language family with many of you readers' target languages, and has more speakers so maybe better translation engine training too.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I wasn't trying to say that ethical funds don't exist, I'm well aware of them. I was saying that when money is on the line, loyalty and ethics often end up second place.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I'm in the sidelines and I didn't know they existed and wanted to know more so I'm glad they posted it anyway

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

ESG in the name

Place to start but once you dig into it, it's not great either. A lot of the evaluations basically boil down to negative externalities, namely making sure that somehow whatever is problematic is NOT accounted for. That's how plenty of ESGs end up with ... other banks as stocks. They "abstracted themselves away" from problems whereas in reality they are funding the problems.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

These are pretty cool and I didn't know about them! I'm pretty me to investing, do you just look up ESGs or something?