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NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh says his party will bring forward a motion of non-confidence to bring down the Trudeau government in the next sitting of the House of Commons.

"The Liberals don't deserve another chance," Singh wrote in a letter on Friday. "That's why the NDP will vote to bring this government down."

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Yeah, WTF is he thinking? At least wait until October after we've had a chance to put out the Trump fire a bit.

Hopefully it's a bluff to get Trudeau to resign, but that's not really the typical NDP MO.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

WTF is he thinking?

For better or worse, he's probably reached the point where he thinks they need to cut all remaining ties to the Liberals, and not be seen as propping them up, formally or otherwise.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago

With the Conservatives 20 points ahead in polls, it's definitely for worse.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And that's worth a PP government? IMO he's lost the plot if that's his entire line of thinking.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm torn on this.

On the one hand, I agree that a PP government is a terrible thing.

On the other hand, it's hardly the NDP's job to prop up another political party.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org -5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You want a two-party system, then. That's pretty much the only way for parties to never work strategically.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No. That's not what they're saying at all.

The NDP is not in government. Trudeau did not form a coalition, he decided to form a single-party cabinet in a hung parliament. This is how this always plays out.If he wanted stability, he could have formed a coalition.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org -4 points 3 days ago

Formal coalition vs. informal support is a distinction without a difference, though.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Well, no.

I want a system that's actually designed to support multiple parties. Westminster ain't it.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago

Former British colonies are still suffering from the effects of first-past-the-post.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Somebody's always propping up another party if you're Germany or Norway or Spain, though, or you don't have a government. That's what I mean. We have something like 2.5 parties, so we're not used to it, but it's how it's "supposed" to work.

There's no formal coalition agreement, and I don't see Trudeau scrambling to offer cabinet posts to NDP MPs.

The less formal arrangement they had lasted a pretty long time, all things considered.

But Singh doesn't owe him anything.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago

WTF is he thinking?

"The Bloc will let me do some performative grand standing. I hope."

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I hope so too but it doesn't really seem like a smart move since it'd make their threats seem empty (though actually going through with this isn't smart either...)

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 days ago

Well, memories tend to be short in politics, and even then it's only credibility-damaging if it gets called. If it was the conservatives I'd pretty much just assume it's a bluff.

[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, WTF is he thinking? At least wait until October after we've had a chance to put out the Trump fire a bit.

Could it be thay he hopes the conservatives will take the fall for Trump's chaos and be out of power quicker? Thats the only other angle Im seeing here.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 3 days ago

That would be a galaxy brain 4D chess move. And pretty edgy honestly - that's a lot of damage done just for the sake of political points.

I actually lean towards less-strategic, lower-pragmatism answers for this particular party. They have a reputation for blind partisanship.