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[–] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml -5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Liberalism, at its core, is an ideology of emancipation that historically sought to dismantle oppressive hierarchies and champion freedom and equality for all. While some argue that liberalism centers on private property and has been co-opted to justify systems like chattel slavery, labor exploitation, and enclosure, this reflects a distortion of liberalism's original emancipatory intent. True liberalism—like anarchism—opposes the concentration of power that limits individual freedom, whether by monarchs, states, or capitalists. Though the liberal tradition has been manipulated to defend private property at the expense of broader freedoms, its true essence aligns with rejecting systems of exploitation and inequality. Similarly, leftist movements rooted in the fight against oppression are fundamentally incompatible with being anti-freedom, illiberal, authoritarian, or reactionary. Leftism, when consistent with its ideals, seeks to expand liberty and dismantle all hierarchies that restrict universal freedom.

Nobody is free until everyone is.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 days ago

No. That's not true at all. Liberalism is a philosophy that centers power on private property whereas conservativism centers power on a sovereign monarch. Under liberalism, private property is the center of power, and that included chattel slavery. Liberalism is the doctrine that allows you to kill people for trespassing on your property. The logic of liberalism is that every square inch of the universe will be owned by someone and if you own nothing then you can die. Under liberalism, it is better that the homeless die than the state truncate the right of land owners in order to redistribute available wealth.

Liberalism is the philosophy that brought us enclosure. It's the philosophy that brings us private military contractors. It's the philosophy that brings us labor exploitation in factories.

Marxism is inherently ILLIBERAL. Marxism explicitly opposed the existence of private property. Leftism in the modern era is anti-private property and therefore it is illiberal.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

I highly recommend reading Losurdo - Liberalism, a counter-history. It debunks this myth that liberalism was about emancipation for all.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

You've gotten liberalism confused with anarchism.