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[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Far from it.

All three are about a genocide. And there is no center about genocide. Yet tankies will shit themselves till they bleed arguing like there is some gray area regarding Ukraine or Uyghurs. As if someone deserves it.

Just like Murdochs propaganda will argue Palestine deserves what they get, because Hamas.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's textbook whataboutism. It's like going to a Black Lives Matter protest and saying "What about all of the non-Black people who get killed by police? All lives matter!" Your response was basically "All genocides matter".

The Palestinian genocide does have one important difference from those other genocides: it's being enabled by US tax dollars. That's why so many people in the US are protesting that genocide instead of some other genocide.

Do you actually care about any of these genocides, or are you just trying to score points on "tankies"?

[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

If you ignore the whole problem of all races matter then yeah, it is exactly the same. Otherwise it is just a shallow take.

The Palestinian genocide does have one important difference from those other genocides: it's being enabled by US tax dollars. That's why so many people in the US are protesting that genocide instead of some other genocide

I am questioning the morality of queermunist user, her speaking in absolutes.

You jump out with palestine genocide different because US dolla bills. And then ask if someone cares about genocides. Insinuating scoring points.

You are arguing over genocides. You have just given an argument of one over the other. You have jumped in slinging accusations because of your moral high ground.

You just did the all races matter equivalent for genocides. And the fact that you have thrown similar in my face. The cherry on top.

enabled by US tax dollars.

Kissinger.