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Summary

President Joe Biden commuted the sentences of 37 federal death row inmates to life without parole, sparing all but three convicted of high-profile mass killings.

Biden framed the decision as a moral stance against federal executions, citing his legal background and belief in the dignity of human life.

Donald Trump criticized the move as senseless, vowing to reinstate the death penalty.

Reactions were mixed: some victims’ families condemned Biden, while others supported his decision. Human rights groups praised it as a significant step against capital punishment.

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[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 37 points 18 hours ago (27 children)

Even the most die-hard anti-death-penalty believer has their limits. It may take Hitler-level atrocities to get there, or maybe even worse. But everyone has their own line in the sand where even they will say "If there was ever a case in favor of the death penalty, this is that case." That line is in a completely different place for everybody.

It also makes it seem like he believes it’s his decision to decide who gets to live and that rubs me the wrong way.

Since the President has final pardon power, he actually does get to decide who gets to live. It's a power granted to him by the Constitution.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 12 points 18 hours ago (10 children)

I understand that and, if you ask me, those 3 guys are pos. My problem is that he said he did it to take a moral stance against death penalty. You can't do that and go "except for these 3 cases".

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (9 children)

Right, but again.....everybody has that point where they say ".....except that case". You and Biden just disagree on where that line is. Even the Pope is eventually going to look at someone who committed some heinous crimes and say "Dude, even the Bible says that shit ain't cool....."

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 7 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

But not everybody is making a statement about morality. He's purportedly saying "capital punishment is bad and we should get rid of it". If you make exceptions, all you're saying is that you're in favor of keeping it around for really bad people, which is exactly where they are now.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

People make exceptions for things they believe in all the time. Religion is a prime example; show me any established religion, and I'll show you a few dozen beliefs associated with that religion that 99.9% of worshippers conveniently ignore. That doesn't mean they don't believe. That just means they have limits.

[–] dufkm@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

show me any established religion, and I'll show you a few dozen beliefs associated with that religion that 99.9% of worshippers conveniently ignore

Zoroastrianism.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Zoroastrianism.

I'd be willing to bet that if you could even find someone practicing the religion, they're not praying several times a day in a fire temple.

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