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[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Copying from my comment when you posted this on another community:

The issue is that it’s less severe, partially because people have immunity and partially because the virus is weaker (this happens with new illnesses - they get less fatal and spread more).

But wastewater isn’t newsworthy. It never has been. It’s disingenuous to say the media isn’t covering this when ERs are NOT having issues and people aren’t dying.

Many doesn’t the media have mass coverage of the common cold? Why don’t they cover norovirus? Endemic shit that doesn’t kill people isn’t really newsworthy.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

because the virus is weaker (this happens with new illnesses - they get less fatal and spread more).

This isn't true. It's a debunked theory from the 1800s. Viruses evolve chaotically, sometimes strengthening sometimes weakening. There's no general rule that they get weaker and COVID's reduction in lethality is due to other factors.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It is true...we track death rates from the variants and it's going down.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Read the links. The theory that diseases just get weaker over time is false, whatever your intuition is. Just because some diseases happen to have gotten less lethal over time doesn't mean that's how diseases work in general. Others have gotten more lethal.

And it's not true that COVID has gotten weaker over time. Most of us have better immune responses now that they've gone through many rounds of vaccines and/or infections, but the disease isn't itself weaker.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Until it doesn't.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's slightly disingenuous in that COVID is still very dangerous. The last time I checked the fatalities, which I believe had been those of the first week of November, there were somewhere around 400 deaths from COVID that week and 13 from the flu in that 7 day period.

I remember reading reports about the strains going around at the beginning of last year (Jan of 2023), and those were actually more dangerous and more infectious than the original strains were. But there were nowhere near the casualty rates because the vaccines work. But not everybody can get vaccinated, and every infection still has about a 20% chance of causing Long COVID despite the vaccine, which can be so crippling that it can put you on permanent disability or cause infertility (COVID is also stored in the balls, along with the pee).

The reason that we see the wastewater reports is because that's the only way that they're legally allowed to report infection rates. The government mandated that the CDC stop recording other rates sometime during the height of the pandemic, around the time that companies started pushing for an end to lockdowns and for grandparents to die for the economy because their grandkids would thank them for it. Also around the time that DeSantis tried to make the person running the COVID tracking website for Florida fake the numbers so that he could say that COVID was over.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 7 points 2 days ago

Of course people are dying. And getting long covid. And other organ failures

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago

Right. Except it does kill people, just like the flu kills people. Large numbers, not nearly as large as several years ago but still large. And the effects of Long COVID look rather bad, too.

So it is newsworthy, by your standards. Meh.

[–] ryrybang@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Also, there's been a January spike every January since 2021. It's practically clockwork. Which also makes it not really newsworthy, especially as the disease becomes less deadly.

https://www.mwra.com/biobot/biobotdata.htm

On the other hand, I saw plenty of news stories about bad travel this holiday. Which is really, really not newsworthy. But we get those every year.

[–] mercano@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

A virus that kills its host looses a vector to spread. It’s an evolutionary advantage to not kill your host, just leach off them to spread. Look at how well the common cold does.