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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/3070651

"Electric bikes are more than 10x more efficient than electric passenger cars, meaning the same amount of battery needed for a 20-mile commute in an electric car could power an e-bike for over 200 miles"

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[–] Pipoca@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Electric cars only have about half the total lifecycle emissions as gas cars, given today's grid.

Electric bikes are remarkably green - they have even lower emissions than regular bikes, accounting for the extra calories you need to eat to pedal.

They do, however, require safer biking infrastructure and more mixed-use zoning to become a more practical option for many.

[–] ryannathans@lemmy.fmhy.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You lost me once you started depending on people exercising even less to justify your emissions argument

[–] Pipoca@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Electric bikes are generally pedal assist. They require you to pedal, but make it as easy to pedal up a hill as to go on a flat street.

They're less exercise vs a regular bike, but you still get a good bit of exercise. Perhaps more exercise, if the e-bike causes you to bike something you would have driven instead.

[–] biddy@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

they have even lower emissions than regular bikes, accounting for the extra calories you need to eat to pedal.

This is a dumb argument because exercise is good.

[–] biddy@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

they have even lower emissions than regular bikes, accounting for the extra calories you need to eat to pedal.

This is a dumb argument because exercise is good.