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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think the main problem here is for folks forced to drive every day in the dervish of death that is rush hour.

If you can't afford to live near where you work (as is often the case in the UK), and you're already looking at a 1 hour commute both ways, current public transport isn't an option. You can either give up on sleep, or you will have to drive.

A lot of these changes are coming in the wrong order - first you improve public transport, create affordable housing near city centers, and drastically reduce the price (and let's be frank, increase the quality of) public transport, and THEN you hit car users to push them on to these options. In the current order, they just introduce further hardship to folks who already have a bad time.

[–] harrim4n@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, the current approach globally - at least it seems to be the same in Germany - is to make the "experience", if you want to call it that, for car users worse to the point that it's worse than public transport in order to force people onto it. There are some minor improvements being made to public transport, but it's of course a lot faster to put up signs for a speedlimit everywhere or even blocking access to certain roads completely than to increase the capacity of a rail network. And as you said, this hits the already disadvantaged parts of the population more, since they more often than not have manual labor type job that requires going into the "office" everyday, that are living further from work, ...

[–] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Disadvantaged parts of population usually don't have cars. For example in Moscow total amout of cars is about 20% of population, in regions it's even less.

[–] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Missed one - you actively encourage mobile working so you have less people moving around in total.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I agree here, a larger push towards remote working would definitely help, though such a move would likely come at the expense of privacy (teams is already a privacy nightmare as it is, with wider home work adoption no doubt Microsoft would implement more "features for employers").