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Mr Trump made the gaffe about the threat of World War II — which finished in 1945 — during the part of his address in which he was questioning the mental acuity of 80-year-old Mr Biden.

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[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What would happen if trump removed the US from NATO and ordered the US military to help his friend/owner-putler?

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He could try. Doubt he would have congressional support. Even Republicans understand the nature of NATO and how it protects MAD.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

I think you're underestimating the goals of those coordinating the global RW fascist insurgency.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The world is left no less stable than it already is, Europe goes back to consuming cheap gas, and the Europeans finally restart their domestic military programs.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, the US pivoting to backing russia's genocide against democracies wouldn't change anything?

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not really, no. The US still has NATO obligations, Ukraine will still be corrupt, and Russia will still have oligarchs leeching all of their economic output.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The FIRST thing trump would do is remove the US from NATO.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ah yes, because all of NATO Europe (GDP: $23 trillion) and Canada (GDP: $2 trillion) could never match the economic might of Russia (GDP: $1.8 trillion) and needs US support in any protracted conflict.

Who do you think you're convincing?

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not talking about 'economic' might. I'm talking about a realignment of allies.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm not talking about 'economic' might. I'm talking about a realignment of allies. (Just noticed a person cannot edit after accidental deletion)

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Would that change anything? Russia is a tiny economy even in the European context. You're saying Europe couldn't maintain It's territorial sovereignty without the US in NATO?