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Steam Ate Microsoft's Lunch On PC, It's About To Do The Same On Handhelds (kotaku.com)

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[–] jamesbunagna@discuss.online 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Intially looked at Bazzite, which seemed great other than I wasn’t a fan of it immutability, I’ve had to remove the read-only property from my steam deck a few times.

Fwiw, Bazzite handles its 'immutability' vastly different.

[–] neograymatter@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

True, thats part of the reason why I didn't try it. Bazzite seemed much closer to being truely immutable, vice the "read-only" safety rails SteamOS gives you. I like to tinker too much to put it on my own machine, but I'll probably put Bazzite on my son's gaming machine next time I upgrade it.

[–] jamesbunagna@discuss.online 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Bazzite seemed much closer to being truely immutable

If you meant that it's even harder to tinker/change/configure etc compared to SteamOS, then I'd like to inform you that this is false. Fedora Atomic, and thus Bazzite, facilitates quite a lot actually. Of course, it's not as moldable as say Arch or Gentoo. To illustrate this, I won't bother you with all the things it can do. Because that would take a while. Instead, I'll only focus on the things it actually can not do. On the top of my head, the following comes to mind:

~~Rip systemd out and replace it with another init, but I'm unaware if traditional Fedora even facilitates this to begin with.~~ Bazzite's founder came by and corrected me on this. Even this is probably possible as a custom image.
UKI
Setup systemd-boot (or any other bootloader) instead of GRUB
Kmods can be hit or miss; what's found here is accessible. What remains can be very finicky.
3rd party repositories can be hit or miss; for example, both Terra and Tailscale work, but e.g. ProtonVPN may not.

[–] quarterlife@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

UKI is something we very much want to do in the future, but it's a long-term goal

As far as replacing the init system, I think even in traditional Fedora that would be extremely challenging, but it could probably be done as a custom image.

[–] jamesbunagna@discuss.online 2 points 6 hours ago

Thank you for chiming in and providing your thoughts!

While we're at it, I absolutely appreciate your work. Wonderful stuff! Thank you from the bottom of my heart!

UKI is something we very much want to do in the future, but it’s a long-term goal

That's lovely to hear!

As far as replacing the init system, I think even in traditional Fedora that would be extremely challenging, but it could probably be done as a custom image.

Aight. I'll change the list then. Thank you for enlightening me on this. The feasibility as a custom image is really encouraging; perhaps I'll give it a go 😜.