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The 14th amendment starts off:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside

Which makes any attempt to make people born in the US not be citizens like this simply unconstitutional. Documentation of birth in the US is pretty much the only proof of citizenship that most Americans have, so getting rid of this puts every non-immigrant American's citizenship in doubt.

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[–] Cool_Name@lemm.ee 79 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I like to ask people who want to be tough on immigration, if you were arrested right now and accused of not being a citizen could you prove that you are?

Address, Drivers License, SSN? Non citizens can have all of those. A passport should work if you have one, but if you don't have it on you, you might be detained for a long time before you can get it and prove your citizenship.

Now, under the EO even having your birth certificate won't cut it. You'd need to prove one of your parents was a citizen. So what? We're all going to walk around with a family tree of birth certificates?

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Exactly this. And we all know who will have to "prove" their citizenship. It won't be the white people, just in case someone needs to hear it.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I have a certificate of naturalization, so it's probably easier for me to prove my citizenship than it is for someone born in the USA (to citizen parents).

They might not care, depending on your skin color.

[–] BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I do too, but I don't carry it on me. Been wanting to get a passport, but I don't like the idea of being without it for the time the process takes. Did you know that it is the only original copy, and you cannot get another one issued?

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The ol reliable

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago

Nah it'll get changed to "if three or four grandparents are non-citizens".

And people still won't see parallels.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm hiring Chaucer to forge some patents of nobility.

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

... And the protector of noble virginity... kryptoniannnnnncoooooodemonkey!

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Those are quite literally walking papers/freedom papers which often came with a tattoo or brand.