I've pointed a couple folks to Lemmy.world and it's uhhh, pretty hard Left for them (as one girl, who volunteered for the Democrats said "I just got yelled at because I can't be Left wing unless I want to destroy capitalism? Which feels weird.") We're much farther Left than reddit which itself was definitely Left of centre...

I don't know if decentralized open source social media actually attracts many mainstreamers but assuming we want to grow the fediverse, I'd like to have somewhere I can point people to without feeling very nervous for them.

Thanks!

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[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 26 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Interesting take.

I think what you‘re talking about is called „anecdotal evidence“. Destroying capitalism is definitely not the „mainstream“ on lemmy, far from it. Although We dont have „normie-lizing“ moderation and bot armies that bury every post thats out of the norm.

Of course we attract a lot of freedom loving people. Freedom, turns out is an extremist left view. Asking to be paid for work done, asking to be able to work from home, etc.

I would ask your friend to show you more than one incident and also ask them to be open to making a new experience.

And although everyone will hate me for it: if you want fediverse lite (or bastardized corpo fediverse) you can always test bluesky and threads. They are more mainstream since they have larger user counts.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world -2 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Not sure this is the way to share comments but in this post we already have people arguing about liberalism creating fascism etc:

https://fedia.io/m/fediverse@lemmy.world/t/1703782/-/comment/9075608

I think she deleted accounts but if you really want I can hunt down the last time folks got angry at me for the same thing.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Are you aware that when they use the term liberalism, they likely mean economic liberalism?

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I think the way to do it would be this but you probably can do it a lot more ways.

Lemmy (and the fediverse as a whole) are not supposed to be a drop in replacement for reddit and other corpo media. No central moderation or "direction", just a ton of servers with very varying user counts, ideas and ways to do things.

When on the fediverse, you will definitely encounter bad stuff. You will learn to use the block button and maybe block whole instances. Thats how you make your own "bubble".

Since the fediverse is federated, horizontally organized and has freedom of association, it is hugely different from any other social gathering in the outside world. All our Lives we live in hierarchical structures: Families (more or less), Schools, Companies, etc. That can be the reason why it feels alien. But I dare you to try and see if "freedom" cant feel nice to you.

It will never feel like reddit or other places on the corpo web. If you need that, its not the place for you. If you can be open to a new experience and just decide between listening to an opinion or blocking it, you might have a lot of fun. Good luck

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think it's the non hierarchy, I think it's the being called a fascist enabler for supporting mainstream Democrat positions etc that is offputting.

I have trouble recommending this place to others because of some of our less than delightful members.

Reddit was big enough that once you got into niche communities, the angry crazies were either banned or hadn't found community or whatever. Lemmy is still small so we don't have that. So, was just hoping for an instance or whatnot that was less communism and linux and more friendly to an average person.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, i cant help if you wont use the block button. The not banning people is part of the horizontal structure. I suggest you open up to the concept. Otherwise youre just out of luck.

Also nobody here gives a shit if you recommend lemmy to anything. Thats reddit thinking. We dont make money, dont have the slightest benefit from someone getting a recommendation coming here. au contraire, we give people refuge who are sick and tired of the way reddit treats its users. If your friends are happy on reddit, please god leave them there. We do not want them here.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world -1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

There have been a bunch of pleas to grow the fediverse, as stated in the opening.

And the block button isn't a particularly good recommendation for new people.

Out of curiousity, say there was an instance that allowed all speech and had great content. Would you tell a trans friend "hey it's great, just block every time you see something hateful." Or can we see how that would be an unpleasant experience.

Anyway, if you don't want a larger fediverse, that's groovy but that seems contrary to the nature of almost every post here.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 3 points 17 hours ago

We‘re talking about different things.

I have trans friends that are fine here. They will absolutely shit on you for not dismantling capitalism though.

See my point?

Everyone has the right to their opinion. You want extras? Either get on an instance that backs your exact flavor or make your own. Freedom of association, baby!

Also, you know what I dont like? Smartasses. Yes, there are people here that dont want this place to grow and others do. Neither of them is wrong. The only one who is wrong is the one trying to convince them otherwise repeatedly.

If you have any other questions, I‘ll gladly help. If you want to convince me why I‘m wrong, you‘re getting the block treatment. Your decision.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I didn’t delete my account I blocked you. Open up a fucking history book, look at the Weimar Republic, then look what came next.

As a queer woman I’m so fucking sick and tired of liberal bullshit. Liberals create the conditions that allow fascism to flourish. In America, when bush couped in 2000, they rolled over, leading to citizens United, 9/11, the patriot act, the afghanistan and Iraq forever wars. In 2008 they bailed out the bankers. In 2016 they fucked over Bernie and lost to a fascist. In 2020 they fucked over Bernie again and the only reason biden won was because of covid. In 2024 they proudly support a genocide and gaslight the public about the economy - just like the Weimar Republic selling out the Germans in their ww1 concessions.

You liberals just don’t fucking learn. And now my life is on the line. Either fight capitalism or get fascism, your fucking pick liberal.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world -2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

You should block better or.something?

And the people who failed Bernie were the voters who didn't show up. Age wise, the youth got their heads kicked in by the seniorsin the primaries by a depressing margin. If you don't vote, you don't make differences.

I mean, bailing out the banks as a failure? Shit, there shouls have been regulations (like Canada had) to stop crazy trading but unless you wanted a lot pf people to lose their pensions and life savings, this is an impressively silly point.

Edit: also, the she wasn't about you it was about the person whom OP had asked about. (Yes, not everything revolves around you, though admittedly that wasn't super clear from the paragraph construction) I just used you as an example of lemmy's delightful crazies.