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Help needed to pick an anarchist matrix server (mander.xyz)

submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz to c/anarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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Hello, I'm thinking of creating a matrix account after a long time and I thought about creating one on an anarchist server (like something with similar ideas in this lemmy server). Do you have any suggestions? I was looking at this database, but it says it has gone down and they provide a json list.

I found https://4d2.org/ , but I saw that they removed the mention of anarchy from their description. (Compare this snapsot from 2025/01/05 with today's snapsot.)

Hopefully this is the correct place to ask, if not, pls direct me to a more appropriate community:)

Edit: The admin of the server told me that 4d2 became a non-profit company (https://www.acabinc.org/) and they don't want to look that political to avoid any legal issues (I think they have to be non-politicaland such, so they removed the mention of anarchy from their website description.😄 (I eventually made an account there.)

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[–] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

capitalist nature of it

About an hour ago, I found out that element is maintained by a for-profit company, is that what you mean?

Also, hm, I see, kinda sad. I get that matrix isn't the best, there are probably better alternatives (possibly Jami, briar etc. (and even signal now that you can hide your phone number?)), but I see that many people and communities use it, so I thought about making one account.

Thanks for the heads-up:)

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Not only Element (the client) but most of the popular servers as well and they are selling their services to law-enforcement and the military.

But if you just want to access some Matrix communities no need have a specifically Anarchist run server though, right? Just try to not get too dependant on it as Matrix is being enshittified as we speak.

[–] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ughh, ok, I wasnt aware, thank you!

And yeah, probably not gonna use it for more than a few chatrooms for people or communities I can't contact in any better way

Thanks again

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you find any good anarchist chats on matrix send me a link. Cheers.

[–] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Well, I ended up with 4d2 (the one in the post), which seems ok (they also have a lemmy instance, though only one seems active on lemmy). Their ToS don't support piracy though, dunno if that's a deal breaker for you. I also noticed that their anarchism room isn't e2e encrypted. Btw I'm barely using matrix so I don't think I've formed a proper opinion.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Kay I’ll check it out.

Hopefully piracy thing is so they don’t get banned, not because of moral standing or smth.

[–] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm back with another instance I found: https://anarchy.chat/

Which is mentioned here: https://anarchyplanet.org/projects.html

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Do you have a link to a room?

[–] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 1 points 3 days ago

I'm not very versed into matrix, I suppose you can register on their server with that link above (https://anarchy.chat/) and then browse their rooms(?)

I'm still on 4d2, not on anarchy.chat, btw. 4d2's anarchism room link is this: https://matrix.to/#/#anarchism:4d2.org

[–] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 1 points 4 days ago

(I did an edit in the comment above btw)

[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How is Matrix enshittifying? I'm not paying attention to it because I can't selfhost it so I wouldn't know.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

They recently moved large parts of the code-base away from the (faux) foundation back into ownership of Element (the for profit company), slapped a CLA onto it and soon after made the main server software open-core and are trying to get people to switch to their vastly more efficient but proprietary "Pro" version of it.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 days ago

Oh that is very disappointing

[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 3 points 5 days ago

Glad I didn't switch, I guess