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[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 2 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

No opinions whatsoever. I believe I made that clear in my list of things to disregard when considering the objective reality of current AI tech.

[–] millie@beehaw.org 6 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

Your estimation of what constitutes "objective reality" is in fact the opinion that you're being asked about.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 2 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Yeah, I understand that you personally choose to disagree with reality, maybe you don't like what reality has become, but unfortunately that doesn't make it less real.

Twitter wasn't profitable for its entire existence, it's often a cesspool of ragebaiters, but clearly it has value because the second it was taken over, everyone insisted on continuing to use it, even choosing to migrate to various clones.

Uber and Lyft have been struggling to be profitable by effectively stealing from their drivers, but millions of people get off a plane and immediately use the services every day. It clearly has value.

Same for doordash and uber eats.

Your personal distaste for the business practices are valid, but they're not relevant when discussing what the current state of the technology is. For many millions of people, chatgpt has (for better and worse) replaced traditional search engines. Something like 80% of students now regularly use AI for their homework. When Deepseek released, it immediately jumped to #1 on the Apple Store.

None of that is because they're "magic beans" from which no value sprouts. Like it or not, people use AI all. the. time. for everything they can imagine. It objectively, undeniably has value. You can staunchly say pretend it doesn't, but only if you are willingly blind to the voluntary usage patterns of hundreds of millions (possibly billions) of people every hour of every day.

And for the record, I am not in that group. I do not use any LLMs for anything currently, and if anything makes me use AI against my will, I will promptly uninstall it (pun intended).

[–] Zaleramancer@beehaw.org 2 points 10 hours ago

Hey, I wanted to say I'm sorry for using ambiguous language there. My time studying history has profoundly affected me, so I tend to use "Opinion" to mean "What's your understanding and reasoned analysis of X thing?"

The alternate implications slipped my mind when I posted. My bad!

I wanted to say thanks for sharing your thoughts and I think we're actually on the same page with regards to current AI technology. I do recognize that a lot of people are interested in using it, and that they will continue to highly value the functionality it has. My objections to it are, of course, related to secondary concerns and problematic social issues- which I think you understand based on your post.

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