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[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 26 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

And I'll never forgive the pundits and social media commenters who derailed conversations about how the Dems tone-deaf campaigning (e.g. promising the most lethal military in the world, Liz Cheney, etc.) was going to make some voters stay home and risked losing the election, very much like how the Dems blew elections in 2016 and 2004. Whining about alienating your own voters is like a football team whining about their opponents scoring too many points when they should be firing their head coach.

e; and before it even comes up, I voted straight ticket Dem and have done so my whole life because there is nothing I want more than the total collapse of the Republican party

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 14 points 13 hours ago

My pet theory is actually that Bernie helped, rather than gutted HRC/Biden. Through his primary campaign so many young people became convinced to vote Democrat. Even if Berniebros were disappointed, most of them still voted for a Democrat in the general election.

One thing you could really see in this election was that confused progressives moved to Trump (or stayed home) after a successful misinformation campaign. Would have been far harder for that misinformation to find a home, if progressive voters had already voted in the Democratic primary, and their preferred candidate had pointed them to the winner of the primary.

You could even see this on the GOP side. Because Hailey supported Trump, almost no GOP voters defected in the general election which ultimately resulted in the complete failure of the Democratic strategy.

TLDR: primaries with a wide variety of choices are extremely helpful in the General election.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 8 points 13 hours ago

You can be repulsed at the voters & the top democrats at the same time. There is no rule saying you can't hate them both.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

"And I'll never forgive the pundits and social media commenters who derailed conversations about how the Dems tone-deaf campaigning"

"Whining about alienating your own voters is like a football team whining about their opponents scoring too many points when they should be firing their head coach."

At some point in-fighting doesn't help and you need to commit to the game plan. Getting Biden to drop out was obviously the right choice. Whining about Dems being too moderate is just making everyone discontent. For anyone who was building up anger towards the Dems instead of advocating for decency, fuck ALL THE WAY off.