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Kennedy’s hearing signifies how close a man with medically racist beliefs is to becoming the US’s leading health official

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I’m genuinely surprised to see creationist apologia on Lemmy. Here’s another article from the same website:

“When Christians Embrace Scientific Materialism”

West explains that “Stockholm syndrome” refers to the tendency of a victim to bond with or sympathize with his or her captor. West uses this phenomenon to describe the damage some influential Christians do when they decide to reject historical biblical teaching in favor of scientific materialism. One symptom of Stockholm Syndrome Christianity in science is a diminished role for God in Creation. As Exhibit A for this symptom, West chooses Francis Collins, arguably the most celebrated evangelical Christian scientist in America. Collins, who rose to fame through his work on the Human Genome Project and his bestselling book The Language of God, is admired by Christian leaders and laypeople alike as an exemplary model of a faithful Christian in science. But West contends that Collins’s model for integrating faith and science is deeply flawed. From failing to challenge the secular establishment in the areas of abortion and sexuality as head of the National Institutes of Health to a years-long quest to marginalize and attack Christian scientists and scholars skeptical of Darwinian evolution, West explains how Collins has fallen prey to Stockholm Syndrome Christianity. West also describes modern theistic evolution, the flawed theological perspective that has inspired many of Collins’s scientific positions.

It might not surprise you then that that Darwin quote is taken dishonestly out of context:

But these breaks depend merely on the number of related forms which have become extinct. At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes, as Professor Schaaffhausen has remarked (18. 'Anthropological Review,' April 1867, p. 236.), will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.

With respect to the absence of fossil remains, serving to connect man with his ape-like progenitors, no one will lay much stress on this fact who reads Sir C. Lyell's discussion (19. 'Elements of Geology,' 1865, pp. 583- 585. 'Antiquity of Man,' 1863, p. 145.), where he shews that in all the vertebrate classes the discovery of fossil remains has been a very slow and fortuitous process. Nor should it be forgotten that those regions which are the most likely to afford remains connecting man with some extinct ape- like creature, have not as yet been searched by geologists.

Eg, he’s talking about the elimination of a taxonomic distinction not violence or subjugation.

At this point, I’m not sure if you are being intellectually honest or if this is a weird crypto creationist propaganda thing.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace throughout the world the savage races.”

Civilized is the word which was used for White.

Savage is the word which was used for non white. There is no real way to spin this.

Acknowledging Darwin was racist like basically everyone else back then is not defending creationism.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Civilized is the word which was used for White. Savage is the word which was used for non white. >There is no real way to spin this.

I know this is a tough passage to read, but no. That’s not what these words mean here. And again - “exterminate” is not referring to conquest.

You are a crypto creationist aren’t you?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Both of these people are acting like Darwin and Galton were the same person and I think it's intentional dishonesty.