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[–] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the yearly road trip vacation with the extended family

For a once a year event, renting is almost certainly cheaper than using a larger vehicle you don't need for the rest of the year. Another option is driving two vehicles during the trip.

[–] jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm interested in your reasoning behind cheaper.

Your assumption behind don't need the rest of the year - do you believe there are zero scenarios where the wife and I are both out and about? Perhaps... working?

You're correct - we could double the mileage / energy consumption, wear-and-tear, cognitive load, etc. on trips - or, we could not do something so ridiculous.

[–] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Your assumption behind don’t need the rest of the year - do you believe there are zero scenarios where the wife and I are both out and about? Perhaps… working?

I don't understand what you are trying to say here. I was explicitly addressing road trips, not daily errands. Buy a smaller vehicle for dayly stuff and for a yearly road trip you can rent a larger vehicle than the one you use for daily errands. In the end it will save you money. What is the problem?

[–] jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was explicitly addressing road trips, not daily errands.

Feel free to highlight this explicit addressing.

For a yearly road trip you can rent a larger vehicle than the one you use for daily errands, and in the end it will save you money. What is the problem?

Setting aside, for the moment, you've myopically focused on a single facet of my scenario - the road trips -

Do you believe there are zero scenarios where the cost of potential SUV - cost of potential car <= (cost of rental * years of ownership)? Interesting.

Even a little more restrictive - do you believe there are zero scenario where the cost of a potential SUV which meets my feature requirements - the cost of a potential car which meets my feature requirements <= (cost of a rental * years of ownership)?

I am sorry for your limited ability to consider.

[–] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Feel free to highlight this explicit addressing.

I invite you to re-read my comment. I don't see how it could have been more explicit:

[You] the yearly road trip vacation with the extended family

[Me] For a once a year event, renting is almost certainly cheaper than using a larger vehicle you don’t need for the rest of the year.

As for the rest, I will be happy to maintain a friendly conversation only as long as you return the favor. I will not get involved in angry internet arguments.

Thank you and have a great day.

[–] jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social -1 points 1 year ago

Ah, I see your error - you imply the road trip rather than explicitly highlight it.

Fair enough - I had mixed you up with another poster and you did not deserve my frustration. My apologies.