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Summary

Former vice presidential nominee Tim Walz criticized Trump for economic chaos while taking personal responsibility for the situation during an MSNBC interview.

"We wouldn't be in this mess if we'd have won the election — and we didn't," Walz told Chris Hayes. He called Trump the "worst possible business executive" and praised the Wall Street Journal's editorial criticizing Trump's tariff war.

Walz emphasized Democrats must offer something better, not just criticize Trump. Recently, he acknowledged a leadership void in the Democratic Party and admitted spending too much time combatting Trump's false claims about immigrants.

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[–] venotic@kbin.melroy.org 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You know what? Yes we are in this mess - BECAUSE of you. You didn't call on Trump for him admitting that he allowed the election to be rigged in his favor. You didn't hold up the election for it to be truly verified. You just allowed Harris to verify it because you wanted to try and make yourselves look good that you didn't cause an insurrection for brownie points. You didn't work hard enough to change the course of your campaign with Harris because you decided to centralize it on a narcissistic whore like Trump.

Aside from 71+ million uneducated fucking morons that call themselves American, you have a part of fault in this. The "at least we're not Trump" play didn't work in 2016, what made you think it'd fucking work in 2024? You didn't build off of any of the momentum from Biden and you didn't dare try to say or do things differently than what Biden did.

While it is not entirely your fault, it is partially your fault too. You better fucking have something better by 2026 or this country mind as well be called the United States of Amerinazis if it isn't already classified that.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Walz was the VP pick, he had no choice but to toe the line with the top-ot-the-ticket (Harris and the DNC), who sidelined Walz and prevented him from promoting many of the progressive policies that Walz passionately supports. As VP you can't just come out in opposition to the runming Presidents platform, that was one of the major problems of the campaign.

[–] AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah, I really don't like the Democrats and don't agree with Waltz 100% at all, but it's clear he is at least a genuine person caught up in a shit organisation.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I'm not American. but it always seems to me like the Democrats immediately tie themselves in knots trying to meet the Republicans halfway, when everyone knows they have no intention of budging an inch.

It's like if two people share a meal, one person goes "Should we split this bill 50/50" and the other one just says "No fuck you, you pay 100%." Then the first person, instead of telling them to fuck off, says "Okay I'll pay 75%, how's that?" and the other one just refuses until they eventually pay about 5%, then complain about it for the next year and tell they first person that they still owe them for the 5% they paid.

Then the first person invites them for dinner again.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As an American, you are 100% correct. That's exactly what's been done for decades now.

[–] Kalon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Because very few of them actually represent their working class constituents.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

It's been clear for a while both some of the Dems, especially the Dinos are getting money from the same donors as the GOP

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

The flaw in your analogy is neither one is paying.

They're arguing about how much we should pay, even though we only ordered a plain salad and water, and they both had surf and turf and champagne.

The Democrat starts off by saying it should be 1/3 each, but the Republican argues until the Democrat gives in.

The Democrat tells us we have to pay the bill, but they'll cover the tip if we let them pick the restaurant next time, and we agree.

Then they don't leave any tip.