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Meta wants to charge EU users $14 a month if they don't agree to personalized ads on Facebook and Instagram::Meta is considering offering ad-free versions of Facebook and Instagram for $14 a month – but only in Europe.

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[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Its pretty good deal until you consider what facebook gets out of it. Privately owning the primary source of communication that a large chunk of the world uses because its free and convenient will surely have no repercussions to end users later down the line once they end the 'grow service as quickly as possible at cost' phase and enter the 'lets squeeze our users for every penny we can to get back profit and because we know they ll take it since our service is too convenient to give up' phase.

Oh who am I kidding like anyone who uses whatsapp or any meta owned service cares about things like privacy as long as they get their free communication they are happy as peaches and will take any amount of corpo dicking

[–] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's end to end encrypted, so they don't get to see any of my communication. They know who I'm talking to through my metadata, and can probably estimate where in the world I am, but that's about it.

Sure, Signal would be better, but people are notoriously hard to adapt, so that's wishful thinking at best.

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

"today we are announcing that anyone who would like to continue end to end encryption will need to pay an extra 30$ per month" Also im not sure how much I would trust e2e on any meta software there may very well be backdoors that let them get the clear text from either end.

Definitely agree that people are hard to change, especially once they get used to a service they like that is extremely popular. Its a human nature problem, and those don't have easy solutions. Who knows maybe meta/facebook will screw up sooo badly one day that even the most diehard fan will jump ship but I don't see that happening. Corpos know just how to push things as far as they can without getting too burned.

[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

WhatsApp can read your messages.

And the metadata's not encrypted.

Unfortunately, too many hear "encrypted" and assume it's automatically secure or private no matter what.

Facebook told Gizmodo that WhatsApp can read messages because they’re considered a version of direct messaging between the company and the reporter. They added that users who report content make the conscious choice to share information with Facebook; by their logic, Facebook’s collection of that material doesn’t conflict with end-to-end encryption.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And who manages the encryption keys you think?

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My phone. Because that's how end-to-end encryption works.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean the Whatsapp app on your phone, programmed by Meta?

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Any such key compromise wouldn't be very hard to notice by anyone with a network sniffer given how whatsapps encryption protocol works but keep believing whatever you want to lol

[–] uzay@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

Not everyone who cares about privacy is also into not being able to contact anyone anymore because all everyone around them uses is Whatsapp