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Moving from Cloudflare tunnels for media streaming, first plan didn't work out due to double NAT (lemm.ee)
submitted 2 days ago by chriscrutch@lemm.ee to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
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I have several services on my home server, most of which I access using Tailscale, and it works great. I had a couple services on Cloudflare tunnels in order to access them from devices that I can't put Tailscale on.

Plex is going to start charging for remote access. So I figured now would be the time to migrate to Jellyfin. But using Jellyfin on Cloudflare tunnels is against their TOS. I have a Roku TV at a remote location that I use to watch Plex. I won't be able to do that anymore. And I can't put Tailscale on it to serve Jellyfin that way.

I was going to set up Nginx Proxy Manager to use my domain name for Jellyfin so I didn't have to use Cloudflare tunnels. But in setting that up I found out that my ISP is double NATting me, and I haven't been able to find a way around it.

So I'm left with two options: 1) buy Plex Pass so I can continue to stream remotely; or 2) get a VPS, run Tailscale and NPM on it and switch to Jellyfin.

I'm looking for a sanity check to make sure the VPS thing would work the way I think it would. If it's running Tailscale then the double NAT would be a non-issue, correct? Is there another option that I haven't thought of yet? Which of the two options would you choose?

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[–] dan@upvote.au 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

There's no reason your media server needs to be directly exposed to the public internet. Use Tailscale. Get everyone that uses it to sign up for a Tailscale account, and add them all to your Tailnet.

Tailscale will perform better than a Cloudflare tunnel because it's a direct connection between the two peers, whereas Cloudflare tunnels route through Cloudflare.

Tailscale does have relay servers, but they're only used in very rare cases, if both peers have very strict firewalls. Almost always, the connection between two peers over Tailscale is a direct connection, so there's no extra latency (other than some small overhead for the encryption)

You could use Wireguard and manually configure it to be in a mesh config, but Tailscale makes it so much easier. I'm a big fan of their product.

[–] chriscrutch@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I love Tailscale as well and it works flawlessly for everything I've ever used it for. However, I can't install Tailscale on the Roku TV that sits remotely from my server. That's the whole reason I'm looking for a different way.

[–] haque@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Have you read into subnet routers? Tailscale subnet routers

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Really no reason. Hmm how do I get a Roku to watch? Or get other people to watch stuff on it.

[–] oxideseven@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Can tail scale be setup on tvs and game consoles and such? Or maybe on routers?