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[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Technically, all the colors are fake. They're just the halucinations of a brain trying to understand the input from sensory organs.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

That doesn't make them fake, in the same way that x can mean 2. You are merely representing a given value (in this case light within a certain electromagnetic spectrum) in a useful way.

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But is my red the same as your red? Hmmm?

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

if two people can both point to red and agree that it's red, that's close enough. anything beyond that is just pointless esoteric debate.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I disagree that it's pointless. I think it may be beneficial to humanity (eventually) to establish whether or not there is an objective reality which we all experience.

[–] pcalau12i@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago* (last edited 1 minute ago)

There is no way to "establish whether or not there is an objective reality." It's a philosophical position. You either take the reality which we observe and study as part of the material sciences to be objective reality, or you don't believe it's objective reality and think it is all sort of invented in the "mind" somehow. Either position you take, you cannot prove or disprove either one, because even if you take the latter position, no evidence I present to you could change your mind because to be presented evidence would only mean for that evidence to appear in the mind, and thus wouldn't prove anything. The best argument we can make is just taking the reality we observe as indeed reality is just philosophically simpler, but that also requires you to philosophically value simplicity, which you cannot prove what philosophical principles we should value with science either.

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

i agree, but that's a job for neuroscience, quantum mechanics, and psychology; not a pack of dorks on the fediverse.

[–] Sedathems@mander.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

it's more in the philosophy ballpark, which shapes the interpretration of methodology and the consequences, in my humble opinion.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But what if the dorks on the fediverse are scientists?

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

then by all means

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But I want to contribute to humanity in a meaningful way!

-me, a dork on the Fediverse nearly incapable of contributing to humanity in a meaninful way

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago

Hey now, you could be the person to force manufacturers to add a new type of warning label to random products!

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some people see numbers instead/along with colors, and different people see different numbers, so I guess the colors might be different between people too

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

I would be way more surprised if people who saw numbers with colors all saw the same numbers.

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

I hadn't thought about it that way.

[–] sfu@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, colors are real. And you see them.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Pink isn't real. There is no wavelength of light that is pink.

[–] sfu@lemm.ee 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Pink is real, or you couldn't see it. And you couldn't see it unless light was bringing it to your eyes.

For pink light to be perceived, it needs red cones to fully react, and both green and blue cones to only partially activate.

https://gizmodo.com/if-the-color-pink-doesnt-scientifically-exist-why-can-1464266788

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 4 points 13 hours ago

Clearly, it's light-ish red.

[–] bilb@lem.monster 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Its bright red, maybe toward purple! Brown is dark orange.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 3 points 13 hours ago

This person colors

Light frequencies between blue and red don't exist.