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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 67 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Good. I'll never forgive that simpering, cowardly, weak, spineless bitch for stabbing Al Franken in the back. He should quit while has a chance to do it without looking too bad, but if he won't, she should run him out in embarrassing and humiliating fashion.

AOC got into Congress by beating the #4 Democratic Congressional leader in the primary, now she's poised to beat the top Senate Democrat in the primary. She's an actual giant killer. All other Democrats should take note - it's not her politics that people are responding to, it's her strength. We need people who aren't afraid to stand up to the Nazis, and she is fearless.

[–] KelvarIW@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 day ago

It is her politics and her strength, and Also her transparency and her target demographic. She represents the people - not the big corporations, even the corporations that favor Democrats. She's here for the 99%, and to help her people, she is willing to take from the top 1% that never should have the money they possess.

[–] letzlo@feddit.nl 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Also her politics though. They’re pretty good.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I shouldn't have made it sound like her brand of politics isnt important. I also heavily agree with her politics.

There are others who have the same ideals, but they arent considered the leaders of the young progressives, and Bernie's heir apparent. The reason she is out front is because she has never been afraid to get in people's faces when they come after her. They demonized Hillary for 30 years, and in the end it was what blocked her path to the White House. AOC isn't going to let them do the same thing to her.

Her Politics of the People make us trust her, but its her relentless strength that makes us want her to lead us. That will only increase as she spends time in the Senate, and we see her grow. It would be great to see her in the presidency in her 30s, but she'll do a better job in her more-experienced 40s.

If America lasts that long.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I just want her to run for president. But after fielding 2 uninspiring establishment centre-right candidates with no grassroots base, that offer nothing exciting, the Democrats and even many voters think that women in general are unelectable.

[–] lumony@lemmings.world 8 points 1 day ago

Yeah. Democrats chose to run some of the worst candidates in history.

It's sad that now a female candidate guarantees a trump victory. Nominating conservative female candidates did more harm than good.

[–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I just don't think very highly of Americans in general. They are too sexist, too racist, and too elitist.

They want a rich old white man. Only one time ever did they attempt something else, and that lead directly to a third of the country becoming extremists.

I love AOC. Hope she will become president one day. But please just run with someone that your sexist, racist, elitist neighbors can actually vote for.

Let AOC become Senate majority leader first. That would be really cool, impactful, and help people get used to her.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

AOC is having a fucking moment, so naturally women of color suddenly can't win. Sanders got raked over the coals for just being accused of saying something like that to Warren. But it's sure different now that the party can't use it as a weapon against a progressive. Now they're trying to keep AOC from running. So the party will hold back all women in order to hold back one progressive woman.

Let AOC become Senate majority leader first. That would be really cool, impactful, and help people get used to her.

It will give us time to think of a new excuse.

[–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

How is it sudden? Trump won both times you tried running women as president. Your fellow countrymen are bigots, have you not noticed that yet?

I know you want it, its fine. But the world cant take 4 extra years of whoever heritage chooses to dismantle democracy for them, if i happen to be right.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

How is it sudden?

Because there's speculation that AOC might run.

Trump won both times you tried running women as president.

Trump won both times we ran uninspiring centrist women for president. AOC is neither uninspiring nor centrist.

Your fellow countrymen are bigots, have you not noticed that yet?

The ones you want to impress certainly are.

[–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

You have 50mil eligible voters who haven't even registered. You have another 40 million registered voters that didn't bother to show.

I agree with you that AOC is the best bet America has for a better future. But the important thing is not getting the best outcome, the important thing is actually beating the Nazis.

Are you willing to bet the future of the free world that you are right? I simply don't have enough faith in the American people. You keep disappointing.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

I'd LOVE to see AOC as president, but I think this post is sopt on perfect. I think she could do some amazing good as Senate Minority, and eventually Majority Leader, and become president a bit later in life.

Gerald Ford was once addressing a classroom, and one of the kids asked him if a woman would ever be President, and he said that a woman would definitely be president someday, but the first woman president wouldnt be directly elected. He thought the first woman president would be a vice president, who gets promoted when the president dies. After that, a woman wouldn't have a problem getting elected. I thought that was a pretty insightful read on the weird bigotry of Americans.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah I vehemently disagree with this. The racist sexist bigots aren't going to vote democrat no matter what. Kamala spent a lot of time trying to court the """moderate"" republicans and it didn't work.

Obama won because he had a base and he got people excited. People still remember "Yes we can" and just the general hope and inspiration he brought.

And honestly to even suggest the radicalisation of the right was due to Obama is crazy.

[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

The racist sexist bigots aren’t going to vote democrat no matter what.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that racism and especially sexism don't exist within the Democratic voting base. They are much less of a problem than within the Republican voting base, but they are still significant enough to swing elections.

And honestly to even suggest the radicalisation of the right was due to Obama is crazy.

Not solely due to Obama, but his existence in the White House did get a lot of people to take off their masks.

[–] Oisteink@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is in 3 years… not many Americans can remember that far

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

That's why he needs to resign now, so she can navigate whatever mechanism NY has to replace him (special election or governnor appointment). He might as well quit now, he has no coherent plan to resist the Nazis for the next 3 years, just appeasement and capitulation. Get out of the way and let someone who wants to do the job have a crack at it.