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I know that there is help available and all that bullshit, but I want to know if there is a legitimate threshold when it is okay to kill yourself. When is it okay to give up and face the fact that a bullet in your skull will gain more traction than your wellbeing ever will? When is it okay to drop from a society that continually endeavors to divide? Is there ever a point where I have no excuse for not killing myself, and struggling would make things worse? What do philosophers or psychologists say about this?

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[–] loopy@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Man, that’s a tough one. Like someone mentioned, that’s really a philosophical question. I’m not sure what you mean by “gain more traction.” Do you mean that people will care more? And I guess I would argue that there is generally not “a society that continually endeavors to divide.” Humans are social beings and have survived this long partially because of that. But if you look at news, social media, etc it does look like the world is going to shit.

Everyone experiences depression a little differently, but when I had my attempt and looked back after the fact, the biggest contributing factors were a lack of purpose and lack of human connection support. Things did not change until I met someone that would come to mean a lot to me. I got a different job and different friends that gave a shit. I don’t know you, but I give a shit about you. And I’m willing to bet there are some people that would like to get to know you and give a shit about you too.

You’re the only one that can convince yourself that life is worth living. And I would start with not looking at reasons not to die, but reasons to live. Even the smallest of reason. Use that as motivation to change your environment. This may sound dumb or cliche, but join literally any club. Having that connection can make a difference. Try. Is there any risk in not?

That being said, obligatory recommendation to dial 988 in the US. Maybe there’s a person that can talk with you about those difficult to answer questions. Hell, call more than once and see what the second person’s view is, maybe it’s better.

So it’s not a given “fact” that you’re facing in thinking that there isn’t anything that’s worth it, it’s a very really state of being. But states can change. Feel free to message me if you’d like; even just to unload some BS.