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The Fairphone 5 price has been dropped to €499. The phone is designed to be the most advanced environmentally friendly smartphone. (shop.fairphone.com)
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I don't like smartphones. I use a dumbphone.

But this is a wonderful initiative.

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

And that's exactly what it should be IMO. I prefer a project with narrow goals to one that does everything, but poorly.

If I want backups, I can use something like Syncthing. When moving to a new device, I prefer to install everything from scratch because I generally don't use most of the apps I have anyway. I don't put anything critical on it, so why would I need to restore from a snapshot?

If you want those features, it's not the ROM for you.

I just want a simple device with a long support cycle and no spyware, and GrapheneOS delivers. I have Google Play Services on a sperate profile, and my main profile is completely free of that crap. I want a Linux phone, but every phone has serious limitations, like missing audio, sketchy calls, or completely broken camera. GrapheneOS is the closest experience I have to that.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 27 minutes ago

If I want backups, I can use something like Syncthing.

syncthing cant backup your device. that is a file transfer app. for backing up the device you need either appmanager and root, or good old dd and root (and a half shutdown system)

I don't put anything critical on it, so why would I need to restore from a snapshot?

  1. because not everyone uses the device the same way as you
  2. snapshots are always complete. file based backups are not because of metadata changes. seedvault even less because it picks apps except this and that, and an unknown subset of the settings, and shared storage for the files that you have enabled

If you want those features, it's not the ROM for you.

currently there's no ROM on which you could execute a real backup, thanks to encrypted storage with keys stored in TPM. TPM sees a change, and now your backup is a useless blob of practically random data

I just want a simple device with a long support cycle and no spyware, and GrapheneOS delivers.

as does calyx os

I have Google Play Services on a sperate profile, and my main profile is completely free of that crap. I want a Linux phone, but every phone has serious limitations, like missing audio, sketchy calls, or completely broken camera.

with microg, this can be done on calyx too. there's even a few options on how much you want google to know.

and if your point is that not all apps work with microg, then you would never actually move to a linux phone because that will never have google play services (hopefully, else something has gone way wrong), probably not even microg or apps that would depend on it