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I don't like smartphones. I use a dumbphone.

But this is a wonderful initiative.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 36 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I wish they could implement the parts of the Pixel phones that allow GrapheneOS to be used.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

What parts are these? I've always wondered what this was about, why the pixel was the only phone that could support GrapheneOS

[–] MicKet@swiss.social 5 points 1 hour ago
[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The last I looked was that the Pixel was the only phone that allowed you to load a custom rom and relock the bootloader. Other phones kept the bootloader unlocked once it was modded.

So, graphene could be put on those phones if the devs wanted to do it, but it would be less secure since the bootloader would remain unlocked.

Also, supporting a small line a phones is probably infinitely easier than a range, of devices, but it would be nice to have another option. Especially now that the Fairphone pice is reasonable.

[–] Prism@feddit.org 6 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

The Fairphone can be locked after flashing a custom rom. /e/-OS is officially supported. You can even buy it from them with /e/ preinstalled. iode-OS also works. I don't know about Graphene OS, but tbh, I don't see the benefit of Graphene OS for the average user. /e/ has built in privacy features, is google-free and runs MicroG as alternative to Google Play Services. Most apps run fine. You can even use your apps that you purchased from the PlayStore.

I've been using Fairphone 5 with /e/-OS for over a year and love it.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

e-OS is said to have the worst security of pretty much all Android distributions. Dunno if this is a fact, but apparently the upgrade schedules are not great.

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

/e/ has built in privacy features

/e/ uses a for profit 3rd party for unencrypted backups. That alone should be a big red flag.

is google-free and runs MicroG

So it runs google. MicroG just limits what data is sent to google.

You can even use your apps that you purchased from the PlayStore.

You can do the same with aurora store. That's available on just about every phone.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

You can do the same with aurora store. That's available on just about every phone.

not if the app attempts to verify its license through the play store. you need microg for that, or patch it

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Well even graphene os still runs a version of Android. So there is still some goggle code in that. But ripping oit google play, amd various goggle services means goggle doesn't track you with those. Yeah if you still ise gmail and log into toutube every day they will.

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

there is still some goggle code in that.

But that code is open source, and it has been verified that it dosent track you.

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, you could use CalyxOS

It dosent have such things as 2 factor pin auth for fingerprint, but its the closest to Graphene

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 6 points 2 hours ago

Not quite the same. The big thing with GrapheneOS is it can run the actual Google services, but sandboxed. Organic Maps is better than Google Maps in everyway, but it's routes are so much worse because it has no traffic into to go on. It's an anticompetitive network effect, but it's hard to fight without law makers.