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It's meant to deter the "only following orders" Nazi defense.
In theory there should be checks and balances which prevent anything absurdly fascist, it's expected that it would be halted before it happens, but I suspect those who wrote this into the Constitution didn't count on the level of fascism we're seeing now.
We'll see how it works out.
What do you think the Judiciary Branch is doing?
Aiding and abetting?
By holding them accountable in court?
With zero repercussions for ignoring the courts.
It sucks to watch that.
Did you not read the article? They’re facing contempt of court charges and have until the 23rd to support their defense. If the DoJ refuses to enforce the charges, the judge said he’ll appoint an attorney to do so.
I read the article. I've also seen what's happened so far when judges have sanctioned or ruled against Trump ... and nothing happens.
No members of his administration have been charged yet. Courts are slow. They ordered injunctions, which were defied. The judges didn’t hold them in contempt to prevent evidence of bias prior to a ruling. As of yesterday, they have defied rulings. Today, they set the contempt of court charge in motion. This is how the courts work.
Been hearing this shit for years. The Ukraine call, stealing classified documents, the election interference, the insurrection. When they finally got a conviction the judge wasn't even allowed to punish Trump.
So this is time they're serious? Yeah I'll believe it when I see it.
This is very different. These are the active checks and balances of our government, not a criminal case against a former president. This is necessary for our government to function.
An innocent man with no charges filed against him was illegally deported on the 15th of March. Despite court orders trying to prevent it, or have him returned, nothing was done to stop this or fix this. He has spent 33 days illegally held and no one has faced any consequences for this so far.
"Courts are slow, this is fine."
Tell that to the man being tortured for over a month if he's still alive. I'm sure his family will be relieved when charges are filled against some scapegoat who offended Trump in 2028.
Who said this is fine? I’m simply saying it’s not over.
The legislative branch isn't the courts.
The legislative branch has been confirming all of the appointments.
The legislative branch could try impeaching him (again) but we both know that's not going to happen. Best case scenario is yet another vote down party lines. The magats are complicit. The corporatists are complicit. There are scant few voices that speak up for anything that doesn't benefit themselves.
The majority are letting all of this happen.
Duh. Thanks for the correction. Edited for accuracy.
Gotcha, that makes more sense.
So then to answer your question, the judiciary branch is being de-fanged. They're supposed to be a safeguard against all of this. But it's all just words on paper if nothing is enforced. Agent Orange was handled with kid gloves the past four years. Cases delayed, investigations slow-walked, and even the cases that ended in conviction saw zero consequences.
If judicial (those that aren't full owned, anyway) wants to try and reverse course... I wish them luck. I would love to be wrong about this pessimism. But given that a third of the public blindly believes whatever Fox etc tell them (and another ~third, probably more, can't be bothered to pay attention), it all plays straight into the persecution narrative. They are grossly outnumbered, outfinanced, and outgunned.
This is why we are seeing the phrase "constitutional crisis" bandied about. The groundwork has been laid over generations. The plans are being executed now.
"You're not allowed to do that" is not stopping any of it.
Just courts are slow, but they’re getting there. First the judge issued injunctions, and they defied them. Boasberg was right not to charge them with contempt prior to a ruling to prevent evidence of bias during the inevitable appeal. They defied the ruling yesterday, and Boasberg immediately began the case for contempt today. They have until the 23rd to substantiate their defense. Boasberg has already stated that he will appoint an attorney if the DoJ refuses to do their job. The only way they’re getting out of this is with pardons, which is an outright admission of guilt.
The problem with rules is that they bind those that follow them and enable those that disregard them. I'm not against those trying to enforce the rules. I'm just hyper-aware of the damage being done in the meantime.
We all are. The problem is we have no hope other than the courts succeeding. Projecting defeatism while they’re actively doing their job is unnecessarily discouraging to most. There are still more steps that can be taken to stop this.