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Cory Booker to visit El Salvador in effort to return wrongly deported man to US
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They need to stop this 1 at a time thing. Get like 40 members of Congress, Senators and Representatives. Show up at CECOT with cameras live streaming and demand to be admitted. When they refuse, force your way in.
I don't believe anyone in El Salvador, including Bukele and the goons staffing the prison, want to have a live stream of them assaulting/arresting a bunch of US members of Congress. And if they do, maybe that'll help wake some Republican voters up to the fascism.
The Rs would celebrate the Ds getting detained in El Salvadore. Everyone going together would be risky as F. If they all get detained, there are no Ds to push back against this shit.
Uh.... how exactly are any of them pushing back on anything right now?
Excellent argument. We have no constituents to begin with. Time to increase protests.
Protests? We're less than a week from martial law. The time for beliefs of peaceful protest is done.
Peaceful demonstrations have ALWAYS played a part in every successful social movement. They shouldn't be the ONLY thing people are doing. They should be paired with more radical strategic actions. But solely relying on violence is also a losing strategy. We should embrace a diversity of tactics, not shout down people who are out there trying to do something.
I read Donald wants to make those illegal-he wants it like Hungary.
That's a bad move.
The cynic in me knows that since it would be only D's going down there, the fascists would use their absence to cram some shit through. The smart play would be to send only congresspeople and keep the senators here to make sure that nothing Mike LovesJohnson slides up can pass filibuster and get to the Diet Coke Desk.
That's not really a concern at all. They haven't been using Congress to pass anything thus far. They've just been doing it all through Executive Orders, so it doesn't really matter what Congress can or can't pass.
Plus, that's not how Congress works, either. Republicans hold a majority in both houses. In the House, if all Republicans vote together there's literally nothing Democrats can do (within the normal rules of how Congress functions) to stop them. It doesn't matter if every single Democrat is there or none of them are. They have the same power. And the only difference in the Senate is the existence of the filibuster, but they don't need any Democrats there to use it. They just threaten to filibuster any given piece of legislation and it requires 60 votes to pass (technically, for cloture, then 50+1 to pass, but the effect is 60 to pass). Again, it doesn't matter if all Democrats are present or none are. Their power is exactly the same.
Found the guy in charge of the DNC. After Elsalvador the 40 dems can go to Gaza and sing Kumbaya. Lots of great opportunities for photo ops there. Anything but writing or passing legislation am I right! Fire up those private jets its vacation time before the vacation! and then it's time to get together and pass a 5 trillion dollar tax cut. Then no more legislating for the year, and back to those photo opportunities.
How do you propose a party that doesn't control any branches of government pass legislation? And what do you think that would accomplish when the regime has already shown they're willing to ignore the law and courts whenever they want?
You want them to just sit in their offices and do the exact same thing they've been doing for the past decade? That's how we got here.
Yet 1 single Senator taking a trip down to El Salvador was enough to scare the Salvadoran government to let someone out of CECOT for the first time ever, even just temporarily to meet with Van Hollen. And you call this just a photo op? Just 1 guy taking a flight and hosting a press conference was enough to scare them into cracking. And you're saying he should have stayed home to write legislation that'd never even get a vote, let alone get passed into law?
You are a deeply unserious person.
Honestly, I'm done trying to work with Republicans.
Oh, I don't think a single Republican would join in on this, and I wouldn't want those fascists to take part anyways.
They are too busy whining that they are scared of the monster they created.
Nah. They like what Trump is doing. They are all 100% complicit in it.
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/we-are-all-afraid-republican-senator-admits-colleagues-are-terrified-of-being-punished-for-criticizing-trump/
Fear is not an excuse for complicity. They all have the option to resign in protest if they're really that principled about it. But they're not. They care more about keeping a position of power.
Yeah, that's kinda my point.
What a strange, absurdly bad idea.
You can't force your way into a foriegn country, or prison, or force a president to do anything.
60 members of the senate can stay at home, in their office and pass a law to prevent this. What the fuck is this real world OZ TV braint rot shit i just read.
The Republicans control the Senate and they want this to happen. There are not 60 Senators, let alone a majority, who are opposed to sending people to concentration camps.
Playing by the normal rules of politics is how we got here. Staying in their offices and just voting in the Senate is what they've been doing for the past decade to oppose Trump, and the fascists have only gotten stronger. What the fuck do you think that's going to accomplish?
Van Hollen on his own went down there and was able to cajole them into giving him a face-to-face meeting with Abrego Garcia. They were so afraid of the optics of just a single Senator getting denied an face-to-face meeting that they went back on their previous denial and granted it. I'd love to see what a whole crowd could accomplish.
Such a dumb, American-centric idea. No Central American banana-republic dictator is going to care that they are Senators/ Reps, they'll just mow them down with machine guns. The fact that it is livestreamed only demonstrates how powerful they are to the entire world.
Their ONLY fear would be retaliation from the US military, but HitlerPig won't do that. He already greenlit the torture murder of Adnan Khashoggi so that it wouldnt derail his arms talks with Saudi Arabia. Not only will he not respond to killing a bunch of elected Democrats, he'd publicly praise it.
I don't think you have a very strong grasp on international politics.