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We agree on what "gun control" means. We do not agree on the need for gun control, nor do we agree on the affects of gun control on the right to keep and bear arms.
That means forced to go to an FFL dealer before trading guns with your friends and neighbors. No private sales, even to trusted parties. Unacceptable. Every legitimate purpose that a mandatory background check provides can be accomplished by creating public access to NICS. With that in place, every seller can know, and so is expected to know their buyer's status. But, "public access to NICS" is not part of our shared definition of "gun control", and has been fervently opposed by Democratic leadership every time it has been proposed.
Even in theory, waiting periods can only achieve their intent with first-time gun buyers. For everyone else, they serve no purpose other than to hassle gun owners. You could theoretically walk in to a gun store with an AR15 hanging from your chest, a Remington 870 over your shoulder, a S&W 500 holstered on your waist, a 1911 on your hip, a Glock 26 on your ankle, and an LCP in your pocket. But, while you're walking around with three defensive pistols, a big game handgun, a shotgun, and an intermediate caliber rifle, the clerk at that gun store won't let you leave with a bolt-action .22LR plinker. Suffice it to say, waiting periods are unacceptable.
The only reason to even mention such bans is to deceive people into thinking they don't already exist. They do. That deceit is completely unacceptable.
The usual limits proposed are 6 or 10 rounds. These numbers are not derived from any studies on defensive need. They do not consider whether 6 to 10 rounds is sufficient to stop a deadly threat. They do not consider multiple attackers. Unacceptable. The various proposals often apply to guns that can accept such magazines, rather than the magazines themselves, and would thus make most existing guns illegal. Only firearms with fixed magazines could comply with such laws. Unacceptable.
Fully automatic firearms, suppressors, SBRs and SBSs are already overburdened with excessive licensing restrictions. Unacceptable.
Harassing gun owners with these ridiculous gun control measures is costing elections. David Hogg was brought to the DNC by the inept leadership to support their losing message on gun control. He and his pet issue are part of what the Guillotine Party needs to excise.
The USA is alone in the entire world in that it has a mass shooting almost every day of every year, and yet when faced with modest controla you're like, "if I, a citizen with no gun dealer licensr can't just sell whatever guns whenever I like to neighbours and friends then any changes are unacceptable".
You say pro gun-control candidates will cost the Democrats votes, well I think I just found a single issue voter.
It's not my vote you need to worry about. I voted for Harris, Biden, Clinton, Obama, Obama, Kerry, Gore, and more Democratic governors, legislators, judges, commissioners, and administrators than I feel like counting. Democrats didn't, and won't lose my vote over gun control.
The votes you should be concerned about are the ones who aren't here, arguing with you. The votes you should be concerned about are the ones that turned former bellwether swing states into reliably red states. Ohio for example. A state that voted for the eventual winner in 36 of the last 41 elections, going back all the way to the civil war. A state that is now considered reliably red.
Democrats did nothing to prepare for the kids and grandkids of the first generation of concealed carriers across the country. Kids who now have their own carry licenses. The Democrats never bothered to consider the effects of 30 million new gun licensees in 42 of the 50 states, nor their families and friends. Never bothered to consider that voter opinion on guns might have shifted since the civil rights era.
Gun control is one of the more prominent issues of dissatisfaction with the Democratic party.