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[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Relatively affordable. It is 20k after the federal discounts and kick backs. Meanwhile, the Chinese EV market has been making cars as low as 4k. https://greenspeedx.com/cheap-electric-cars-available-in-china/

I'm not a pro China person (because one time in Ark, a Chinese team kept destroying my thatch base), but they seem to have the things. Apparently Mexico is aiming to compete in the EV market as well.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If by "the things" you mean underpaid labor, then yes.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 9 months ago

Oh, the US has state subsidies too. They just get pocketed by execs.

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

America used to have the things as well but then there was a civil war and it got banned.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 6 points 9 months ago

semi-banned, under conditions*

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 13 points 9 months ago

Even Europe has a tariff for EVs from China due to government subsidies. So it’s probably not 4K, but it’s also probably less than 25

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You might ask yourself what it is that allows them to produce and sell a brand new vehicle for $4k, basically the same price as a high-end PC or a couple of high-end smartphones.

[–] palarith@aussie.zone 4 points 9 months ago

I dunno. Isn’t that what we need? Gov subsidy to increase the adoption of ev?

We might hit the Jevons paradox pretty hard though.

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Mostly automation and sensible regulations. Also direct to consumer sales with third party dealerships not really existing for new cars. Also generally a lower cost of living allowing for lower wages and thus lower labor costs for the non automated parts.

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why is it that China is the only country on the planet able to sell new vehicles for this cheap? Surely other countries have automation and sensible regulations too.

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

They genuinely aren't, Muerza in South Africa and a variety of other local brands across Africa and Asia have cheap cars.

China cuts it down further by completely subsidizing education and opening vocational schools near factories that specialize in what those factory owners need, allowing hyper specialization. When you have an entire neighborhood able to produce all the parts of a car, instead of importing parts from across the world and assembling it like us car manufacturers do, you're able to massively cut costs.

All manufacturing in china takes this approach of having almost enclaves of specialized knowledge and factories, and is genuinely an engineers wet dream to work in since you can get any part you could possibly want the same day, even if you just designed the part yesterday.

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago

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