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[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I totally agree with you.

And what's even sillier is that examining the facts, Electric cars are better than ice cars anyway.

This philosophy take that op posted about evs being a "rich person's" green solution is a commentary on the general wealth required to own and maintain any car, not anything about ev technology itself.

It is verifiably true that even though cobalt mining and lithium mining are riddled with ethics issues, pollution issues, etc. The battery powered cars that those metals go into are still a net positive on the environment by year 4 or 5 of ownership. We should push for evs to use better battery chemistry but it's not productive to try and shit on evs when battery research really hasn't been a huge focus until recently and there is a ton of benefits.

ev cars were invented right around 1900. Imagine if we were focusing on the development of better batteries with cleaner chemistry, better power density, cheaper costs, etc for 100 years....we wouldn't be having this discussion.

And evs are better for cost of ownership for the end user. You didn't costume brakes nearly as fast, dollar per mile costs for energy (gas or kws) are much cheaper in a lot of places for evs (I know California is expensive for energy, I'm speaking generally), no oil changes, no break downs due to drive train...evs just work until they need tires or a new drive battery in 12+ years.

This argument I'm presenting is purely for the case of EV car vs ICE car. Public transport should also be electrified once the power infrastructure is there. That's the real problem.

The best 2 reasons not to get an ev over a regular car(especially since they are so cheap second hand right now) are 1. long trips being a headache and 2. Your electricity cost is really high.

If you live somewhere where electric is cheap and you need a commuter car an ev is so nice.