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Whoa, trump violated a law??? We've got him now!
I’m over these headlines. The Supreme Court said he has presidential immunity. The law doesn’t apply.
He has immunity for "Official" presidential acts. Establishing/ promoting a private business concern is NOT an official presidential act.
The problem is that SCOTUS said two things:
"Official" acts are basically whatever Trump says they are unless the Supreme Court says otherwise.
Official acts can't be investigated or used as evidence of criminal activity for unofficial acts. In other words, if Trump says it's tied to an official act, it's covered as well.
In other words, Trump can do whatever the fuck he wants. All he's got to say is that the whole thing was tied to his implementation of economic policy or something and it's suddenly an "official act" that can't even be investigated unless the Supreme Court says it can.
The SC retained the right to define what constitutes "official." Which this will be.
And you're just going to comply with that?
I for one would still want to call out whats being done, to make a record for future generations if nothing else.
Are you really such a good little soldier that the supreme court makes a bad decision and you immediately reorient your entire moral framework to match?
What do you mean by am I just going to comply? What does that even mean? What am I supposed to do? Trump is the one not complying along with the Supreme Court and Congress. None of these groups are doing their job. This has happened over and over and over again and still half the country is either cheering it on or clearly ok with it. The other half either don’t care or have been neutered. America democratically voted for this. Don’t blame me for not being emotional enough in a comment.
Lemmy loves the defeatist, resigned, comply in advance mentality. It pretty uniformly gets voted to the top.
are you charging into battle as we speak?
And exactly what is your grand plan, oh wise one?
Trump has been ignoring court orders left and right. Mass firings are still happening. Fired workers haven't been rehired. Kilmar Garcia is still stuck in El Salvador. Immigrants are still being sent to third world countries with no notice or due process. Trump is issuing unconstitutional executive orders on the daily, and the Supreme Court themselves may very well rule that all of this is OK.
Hell, Trump's lawyers just argued in front of the Supreme Court that they will not abide by the Supreme Court's decision if they don't like it. SCOTUS judges didn't even reply with any kind of threat of consequences for ignoring a SCOTUS decision. They just accepted that Trump may or may not ignore the court and moved on with questioning. Why? Because they know they have no enforcement mechanism. Neither do any of the other courts. Why do you think they've done exactly nothing but issue empty threats of some arbitrary and undefined "contempt" charges for DOJ lackeys if they lie to the court 20 or 30 more times? Because that's all they've got. Anything beyond that and they'll be exposed for having no enforcement mechanism when Trump tells them to go pound sand. The court's threats have already been exposed as being about as effective as mommy telling a beligerent toddler that she's going to count to three, but keeps stopping at two and a half, two and three quarters.......
And we all know how it works out. No punishment ever comes. Mommy eventually buys the screaming child the toy just to shut him up, and then wonders why he pulls another temper tantrum in the next store they visit. Same thing applies here.
But hey, if you've got a viable plan besides taking an extra hit of copium and hoping for the best, I'd love to hear it.
They said he has immunity for official duties. This article is about him using the presidential seal for non-official duties. I don't think anything is going to happen still, but even the insane SC ruling doesn't give him immunity for this.
The ruling outlined that official duties includes pretty much everything he does while president, unless he explicitly states it's not in his capacity as president or for national interests, which he won't do in court, so effectively, yes, he has complete immunity. The "official" part is just a fig leaf to give the ruling the appearance of jurisprudence.
Sure, but this is about him using the seal in a non-official capacity. Either it's legal because it's an official duty, in which case he doesn't need immunity, or it's illegal because it isn't an official duty, in which case he isn't immune.
Again, nothings going to happen with this regardless. I'm just stating what's going on.
He’ll just say something like he was using it to build relationships with the leaders of other countries or some ridiculous bullshit. Unfortunately “official” while obvious to us may be more ambiguous to the law.
At this point it's basically just propaganda to give the illusion that something is being done.
Like how Putin has elections