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[–] termaxima@programming.dev 5 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

It’s a real shame about Proton. Seems like such a convenient ecosystem, but with the CEO’s idiotic position, and the fact the Swiss government can and has forced them to log your IP, that’s too fishy for me.

Also, none of the ones I checked take Monero, which seems like the only actually untraceable payment method. Cash by mail is pretty good but still too traceable, and other cryptos are just so idiotically easy to trace that you might as well use a bank transfer.

[–] YPriv0133@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Any email provider could be compelled to log your IP. Email isn't private at all and shouldn't be used to do sensitive stuff.

Proton isn't any better than Tuta in terms of privacy except their location.

[–] bonus_crab@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

i mean if you assume he meant it

[–] termaxima@programming.dev 1 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Is there really a reason to believe he did not ?

[–] bonus_crab@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago

i just think its rational to lie and cheat and kiss ass and bribe to actually defend encryption and digital privacy rather than try and win brownie points from twitter by #resist 'ing online.

i mean lord knows the orange man is easy to trick and bribe. 400m got qatar in the door and then convinced him to abandon israel lol. even less to screw over ukraine.

[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works -1 points 7 hours ago

yes if you decide to inform yourself on actual information aka his social profiles and what he actually said and not some terminally online user's paragraph on reddit

[–] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 hours ago

You should use a VPN anyway if you're that worried about your Email provider knowing your IP.