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Human beings are sexually dimorphic, but most of the advantages or disadvantages are negligible or can be overcome with training, so it makes little difference. It makes even less difference in middle and high school aged children, since everyone is at (somewhat) different points developmentally anyway.
Maybe but that doesn't mean we shouldn't attempt to make them as fair as possible.
Exactly, we're talking about two different things when comparing children's sports and Olympic sports and it's easy to conflate the two.
Olympic competition needs fair rules to ensure the best humanity can produce is rewarded. The rules are already there and they seem to be fair and supported by trans athletes. Politicians need to stay out.
In children's sports it's more important kids learn skills, fitness, cooperation, and find a sense of community. So unless there is a massive outlier, the rules should maximise inclusion over "fairness". Politicians also need to stay out.
I agree. I feel like this is only made more complicated because of college sports and the money involved.
I think you're being a little dramatic. I understand if you personally don't care about the rules but I have to imagine no one is saying it should just be an absolute free for all. Again I don't understand why we link school and sports but we do and for that reason it means a lot to some and nothing to others. I'm completely down for a free for all in professional sports.
I agree with what you're saying but I also don't think it has to come to that. I guess my point is that if we don't make some attempt to set a standard then we are allowing literally anything. I don't honestly care for sports being tied to school in the first place but are we saying that anyone can claim to be trans and join the other team at any time because we're all too afraid to talk about it or what? If that's the case then it seems like we should just do a way with gender in sports completely.
You have a standard. Men play in the men's category, women in the women's. In this context, a man is anyone with a testosterone-dominant biology, and a woman anyone with an estrogen-dominated biology. There is your objective standard.
If sports were as fair as possible, every sport would have handicaps built into it. Ensuring sports are as fair as possible is only ever brought up when new minority groups want to participate in sports they were previously excluded from.
So in college sports the performance gap is larger and should be considered or no? I also find this hard to believe even at a highschool level. While I was in highschool the advantages of testosterone were very obvious. If it were really the case that it makes little to no difference then shouldn't the argument be to remove gender from sports all together?
I agree on a highscool/grade school level, but not at any extreme competitive level. There's a reason most of the world records for athletics are held by men.
Testosterone doesn't make all men better than all women, but if you take two equally trained+talented people for most athletic events, the men outperform the women.