That's like saying "I'm pro-life and anti-gun control".
Oh. Wait.
Edit: Guy confirmed that he is, indeed, pro-life and anti-gun control.
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I disagree, but I’ve definitely heard this argument before. NYC bike lanes are almost never respected. Cyclists need to be just as aware in a bike lane as they are splitting lanes.
That's because most of them are unprotected and drivers are assholes. Paint doesn't mean shit to them
Yep the concept is called "vehicular cycling". Proponents argue that cyclists fare the best when they act like and are treated as any other vehicle in traffic. It's bullshit of course, cyclists are safer in dedicated infrastructure and we should try to transform urban areas to be less car-centric and more walkable in general.
Oh The Urbanity! youtube channel made a video about this in particular: https://youtu.be/XpnZy7RrO3I
I'm all for separated bike lanes etc. They're nicer and safer than riding on the road. however when that doesn't exist the safest way to ride is to behave like a car, so holding the leave etc. Otherwise people try to squeeze past you or your less visible and it gets really dangerous
Places that implement bike lanes in a decent way have physical dividers between the car and bike lanes, not just paint.