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They are also pushing the identity politics, so we are distracted fighting among ourselves instead of uniting against them
I mean it wouldn't be a problem if people didn't get angry about minorities having rights.
The reason the rich are pushing right-wing politics is that they know socially conservative people are ready to give the wealthy whatever they want so long as they can tread on the humanity of minorities. So a large part of the problem is there truly are a lot of deplorable people who have some truly abhorrent views and the rich are taking advantage of that. Is the rich taking advantage a problem? Sure, but the bigger problem is that these people with these views exist in the first place and are easily manipulated.
If the rich could get tax cuts from pushing for social rights for minorities they would do that instead, but social liberals are less gullible than the conservatives.
I wish the rich would take advantage of our more virtuous qualities. Like I would love for someone to back me financially to go around compulsively pulling up invasive plants and lobbing pollinator flower bombs into abandoned lots.
They easily could push more socially positive virtues, but it's likely more profitable to push a divisive narrative, especially as someone else said, to keep us occupied fighting amongst ourselves, as opposed to unifying against the wealthy.
Mate, the basic principles of Equality and Fairness of the Leftwing naturally include minorities having the same rights and treatment than everybody else because Equality doesn't make distinctions on skin color, gender or which kind of people one loves.
The artificial slicing of Equality into "one group at a time 'Equality'" is exactly the strategy by which the Left was divided, distracted away from the biggest inequality and descrimination of all (that of Wealth) and made to fight each other and be baited by whatever rage-baite du jour served by the far-right populists to their muppets.
Whomever in some Neoliberal Billionaire-Funded Think Tank who came up with that perversion of Equality deserved whatever massive bonus they got for such a brilliant strategy of convincing people that are all being victims of the few, that it's people like them but of a different ethnicity/gender/sexual-orientation who are their real enemies, not the ones exploiting them at every turn.
You've been had and made into a footsoldier in a fabricated war were the working class got divided into "groups" by ethnicity, gender and even sexual-orientation and turned against each other whilst the people doing the most damage and causing the most suffering keep on pillaging to their heart's contents and, worse, it's been done via preying on your qualities as a human being who desires a fairer world.
You make it sound like discrimination is something that only happened recently and that it's some kind of conspiracy invented by the rich instead of something that has literally been around since the dawn of humanity. Hell it's not even a trait unique to humanity.
Everyone being equal sounds great and all. Show me a left wing country that's achieved it.
Pretending everything can be magically solved by wealth equality is pure class reductionism and this fantasy has never been borne out by reality. Different groups experience different forms of discrimination and each has different needs. Not to mention the "left" isn't without it's share of abhorrent views. Check out the recent posts of !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works to see transphobia and queerphobia from leftists you claim desire equality on full display.
The transformation of Powerfull vs Powerless way of fighting inequality into a miriad of split identitarian fights which claim that people's victims or aggressor status is wholly defned by the genetics they were born with (rather than, you know, actually being victimized or chosing to victimize others) which naturally ended up with the oppressed fighting amongst themselves as competing "identities" for the crumbs from the Powerful absolutelly is a modern phenomenon.
If you want to see the old style, just look at how traditional Unions still left in positions of relative strenght operate: they don't fight for different salary and work condition improvements for people with different genders, skin colors or sexual orientation, the fight as all the workers vs the bosses.
Show me a country were Identity Politics has merelly just reduced Inequality (as defined by the Gini Coeficient) since it became fashionable (so, the last 3 decades).
From what I can see, the countries with the most and loudest Identity Politics are the ones going in the exact opposite direction - higher inequality, collapsing social mobility - like the UK and the US. It's "curious" that after the powerless fighting as a group against the powerfull were fragmented into different "identities" based on their genetics, each fighting for their "own" group rather than all together, the powerful have managed to capture an ever increasing share of the wealth and the median quality of live has even started going down.
As for your quoting tankies as examples of "left", well, tankies are fucking authoritarians, so if you're expecting they're following the actual principles of being Leftwing rather than mindlessly parroting some Soviet slogans or whatnot and thinking Stalin was a great man, you are seriously deluded or ill informed.
It's funny that people like you defending Identity Politics have a view of what is Leftwing that is basically the Red Scare. You're helping prove my point.
You claim that each group fighting for their own unique needs and rights is some how splintering our unity. You do know intersectionality is a thing, right? Just because I'm for gay rights doesn't mean I'm against black rights. Each group has their own unique needs and there is some interplay between them but there is absolutely no shame or downside to communicating those unique needs.
What you claim sounds very similar to an argument I often hear from right-wingers. "Gays and Lesbians already have equal rights. They have the right to marry someone of the opposite sex just like everyone else."
There is a difference between equality and equity.
You claim that is the fault of minorities demanding equal rights that inequality in wealth has risen rather than put the blame squarely where it's deserved: the right wing, and people who couldn't be bothered to vote against the right wing (or worse, the people discouraging others from voting for the only opposition party to the right wing).
You claim that "leftists" are that different from tankies but judging by your own rhetoric which is incredibly hostile to minorities, I'd say they are quite the same.
Nice neoliberal propaganda picture.
The actual Leftwing solution would be to remove the fence.
Also you're "curiously" bypassing the whole "deeming people victims or oppressors based on the genetics they were born with rather than actually being victimized or victimizing others" part of my argument, which just so happens to be the core of it.
Leftwingers (and Humanists) help people based on their actual need, fight against any unjust treatment (not just for some identities but not others) and force the actual aggressors to compensate the actual victims for what they did to them, not give excuses for the aggressors or ignoring the victims because of their respective identities (unlike what's so poignantly illustrated by the way the Democrat Party in the US has treated aggressors and victims in the Gaza Genocide).
So even in that propaganda picture of yours were the Ticket-buying Inducing fence stays up, the person on a wheelchair would get help under traditional Leftwing thinking because they have an actual need for it, not because of, say, being old - if they're old but have no such need (say, a very wealthy person who had a very good life with proper food and living conditions so they did not end up on a wheelchair) they don't get a wheelchair ramp merely for being old - and similarly a person who is not old (and hence in that metaphor not in an identity deemed in need by Identity Politics) and yet is on a wheelchair also gets a wheelchair ramp under Leftwing thinking because they too have a need, which is all that matters, not whatever identity label has been given to them.
So even in the Capitalist environment where that fence stays up, Leftwingers would help those who need help because they need help, whilst the Identity Politics warriors would be deciding if they would which are identities fro which all members get help and how much help does each Identity deserve all the while ignoring the actual personal need.
Who gains from help not being given based on need and the costs (direct or indirect) being borne by entire identities deemed "aggressors" rather than by the actual oppressors? The wealthy, of course: they get to oppress to their hearts content and the cost for that if the victims are ever compensated is spread over everybody of the "identity" who happens to be the same as them, and if they're luck and were born with the "right" identity, they'll even benefit from it even though they have no need at all for that and are actual oppressors rather than victims.
I keep hearing this, and I've been ready to fight back against them for decades, but I don't ever see the revolution.
Unless you count occupy wallstreet, which lasted like 2 weeks, and nobody remembers.
People have been asleep and okay with fascism as long as they have money in their pocket. Now, this breach with ethical behavior in the name of corporate America on the part of so many has gone full circle. In other words, this is what you get when you value money over people.