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Trump not informed about Ukraine attack that destroyed huge fleet of Russian planes
(www.independent.co.uk)
this post was submitted on 01 Jun 2025
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he should not and without reading the article i am pretty sure that is not what it suggests. it illustrates how untrustworthy the former ally (the word leader was used in the past) of the free world is.
How do people still buy this propaganda?
America was never “world leader” nor involved in any “free world”, America has always been an oppressor country, it was the undisputed hegemon for a period.
The US was absolutely the world leader after WW2. The entire system for global trade and finance has been designed by and around the US, and everybody played ball.
Obviously "leader of the free world" should come with some annotations about what they mean with "freedom", and the US has absolutely been complicit in overthrowing some democracies and supporting dictatorships, but it's indisputable that they've had a position of leadership among free and democratic countries; the US did often set the standard, and got what they wanted.
And for a long time, the things they wanted weren't always just for the good of the US, but good for many countries and possibly the world, at least from some perspective. The US has pressured many other colonial powers to release their colonies, for example.
Of course they were also often wrong, and often disastrously so, but that rarely hurt their position of leadership. Until now. Actually until Bush started the Iraq war; that was the first real dent in US credibility. Obama did a lot to repair it, and then Trump flushed it down the toilet.
america was called both and it is not anymore. yes. the results of its efforts were at times dubious, and its ideological position was often clouded with its selfish interest, but complaining about propaganda and countering with propaganda from the opposite direction is not going to move the discussion anywhere
Side note, I like your username
It's not propaganda to say America was/is oppressive on the world stage, we have numerous examples of them enforcing their will onto other states/peoples abroad and at home.
And American's dropping the exceptionalism and getting out of their bubble is a huge first step in getting anywhere.
But it is propaganda to say America was never a world leader nor involved in any free world.
There is evidence of both, even if it is less the case now.
America is still one of the most important word leaders and has at many times been the centre of the free world.