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Blame everyone except the fascists
There is this wild concept called "two things existing at once"
You can simultaneously blame the fascist for their actions while also holding the liberal establishment accountable for theirs. The two are not mutually exclusive.
No, sorry, there is only one thing, and all divisions are imaginary. You. Me. The ocean. Alpha centauri. The concept of corrugation. These are all the same thing.
Since we're on the topic of nuance, would you also say it is possible to support the liberal establishment in defeating facism while also pushing for change within the party?
No, I wouldn't, explicitly because of the nuanced differences between leftist ideology and the right-wing, neoliberalist establishment that make them fundamentally oppositional. Their interests as owning class citizens means they have fundamentally vested interests that are diametrically oppositional to our interests as working class, and will never truly change beyond offering mild concessions to prevent systemic collapse. If we want left wing progress, it won't be from within the current party. We need a fundamentally new party that actually holds the interests of the working class at priority.
Though, personally, as an anarchist, I do not believe change will come from within the system. It is structurally designed to force internal actors to capitulate to the interests of the economy, essentially tying their interests to the strength of the capitalist economy as a means to strengthen or maintain their own political power once in a seat if authority. Thus, will never be allowed through internal means to exert the will of the working class.
That isn't to say we shouldn't build dual power to protect our interests, just that our focus should be at local and state level, not the federal. It doesn't matter what the federal agency does or says, they still have to be able to enforce their rule. If the local communities are banded together so that when push comes to shove, we can actually do some shoving of our own, they won't be able to enforce their authority over us.
Not if their past or current behavior is any indication.
Scratch a liberal...
I think its possible to blame one group in this meme and another group in another meme.
Fascists are bad, they don't listen to criticism.
Liberals are less bad, and claim to listen to criticism.
So why not try to criticize the people who are "fighting" Trump for better plans and actions? One person alone has a good idea but not a great execution. Gathering an idea and people to fight for it is worth doing.
Plus if you think no one here is calling out fascists, you're hella ignorant and blind. We call out the people who enable and slow roll fascists. We can blame Biden for not arresting Trump because he wanted two wins in a roll.
No but see you spent an entire minute not calling out fascists while you responded to liberals saying we should accept the proper party submission position© for the fascists. So you're basically the same as a fascist. Sorry; i don't make the rules, i just fetishize and enforce them only on my ideological enemies.
Hey, remember all the time the blues defended red team by taking all the momentum, monopolizing possibility, and then just throwing as hard as they possibly could at the last second, up to and including surrendering a presidemtial election that they won?
Remember when they murdered the concept of hope for my entire generation?
If you didn't vote delacruz, you clearly didn't take this electoralism stuff seriously.
We're well past identifying the source of the problem. If aliens invaded and everyone was debating how best to fight back, you'd be sitting there saying "Why is nobody blaming the aliens!?" Everyone who would understand that the country is falling into fascism already does. Anyone who doesn't simply hasn't yet admitted that they like fascism.
Yes, fascists exist, and are to blame for a large chunk of the failures of society. Now is the time to figure out who's going to help fight against them in a way that keeps them away for as long as possible, and who's going to claim that they had some good points, setting the stage for their expedited return.
I don’t wanna blame anybody. I want to criticize the people that I think have the best chance of actually being influenced to do the things we need them to do. And guess who that is?