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[Meta] Would you all be okay to give the Piedfed migration feature a try? If you prefer a Lemmy instances, which ones would they be? (lemm.ee)
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Presentation of the feature: https://piefed.social/post/667045

Example of successful migration: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/45876492

Our next step would be to give this feature a try. What would basically happen is that

Should the migration not work, we would still be able to use the current community, and then manually migrate elsewhere.

The one caveat is that from Lemmy instances, the community doesn’t have show old posts (see https://lemm.ee/c/barcelona@piefed.social), but if you were restarting a community from scratch you wouldn’t have access to your old posts anyway.

Other federated instances like feddit.online would also see the posts and comments on the new community: https://feddit.online/c/barcelona@piefed.social

The objective of this post is to address any questions or issues before we move forward. We are probably going to leave it open for 48 hours, and then reassess based on the community feedback.

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[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not that I know of, is that a deal breaker for you?

It's just a terrible practice. How do users ensure that an instance is running the latest security patch?

I guess we can try working something out if we would indeed migrate.

While I'm happy to move, I'm not happy to have software falsify my actions and I in no way consent to it doing so.

Would you prefer to use https://feddit.online/ ?

You know me, I like to spread the load.

[–] Blaze@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I had a quick look, seems like current versioning is handled by docker images, without proper versioning indeed: https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/branch/main/INSTALL-docker.md

Hopefully that will be solved down the line.

While I'm happy to move, I'm not happy to have software falsify my actions and I in no way consent to it doing so.

Noted. I might migrate !casualconversation@lemm.ee using that feature, do you have any comments or posts there we should remove?

You know me, I like to spread the load.

I guess at some point I'll probably use another instance too. Feddit.fr is tempting, but they aren't using the latest version (I know because the title completion feature is missing). Hence my question on the Piefed Matrix chat on how updates are handled.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Noted. I might migrate !casualconversation@lemm.ee using that feature, do you have any comments or posts there we should remove?

I don't. You're all good there.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

Thank you for confirming!

[–] rglullis 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m not happy to have software falsify my actions and I in no way consent to it doing so.

There is no falsification if implemented correctly. Every comment and post that you submit is an activity. All that the "community migration" should be doing is to take these activities and re-Announce them, so it should look like a repost on Lemmy.

If the migration feature however takes the content from the imported community and creates new activities out of the comments, then yes, it will be shady.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's falsification and not a slippery slope I want to go down. I only post to communities I want to and I do that explicitly. I do not authorise the pretense that I posted anywhere other than I actually did.

[–] rglullis 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just to clarify: what would you say if someone followed your Lemmy account from mastodon and Boosted (Retweeted) all of your posts and comments?

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Retooting isn't the same

[–] rglullis 3 points 2 days ago

Excuse my pedantry, but from the point of view of ActivityPub, it is.

Any remote instance sees your posts to any community as a as:Announce activity. All that the community is doing is boosting your comments/posts, and that can be done by anyone else.

[–] rglullis 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ok, I watch the video with presenting the feature. @rimu@piefed.social, what is the AP representation of posts?

[–] rimu@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

All the posts are reassigned to the local piefed community. From the perspective of remote instances, PieFed just got a new community with a whole lot of content in it.

[–] rglullis 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I just checked one post from lemm.ee that was migrated to piefed. You are keeping two different objects with the same id, but altering the content to change the audience. I'd have to agree with @sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al, that would definitely qualify as falsification.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 2 points 2 days ago

Thank you for your magnimity

[–] rglullis 0 points 2 days ago

What about "as:audience" attributes from the original "Create(Page)" activities? Does this mean that you are completely rewriting history?