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[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Wouldn’t better driving education and testing work just as well, if not better?

[–] Bluewing@discuss.online 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can pass multiple driving tests, and still be an idiot driver. So many people drive HUA, (Head Up Ass), while thinking they are the best driver on the road that it isn't even funny.

Remember Kiddies, driving should never be viewed as "relaxing" or "enjoyable." It's work, hard work and should be mentally taxing every minute you are on the road.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 23 hours ago

As someone with ADHD, it is relaxing. And it is super enjoyable. I like thinking about how the weight of my car shifts going around corners. I like trying to be as smooth as possible shifting gears. There is a lot of information and the focus on it all quiets the noise normally in my head.

Leave early enough you aren't stressed about being late.

Just let the asshole aggressive driver in.

Leave more than enough space that you have time to react.

Don't treat it as a competition and it's a pleasurable experience.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

100% agree, but it's amazing how quickly some people forget their education once they get out on the road, especially after a few years accumulating bad habits. How about less reliance on cars in the first place?

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Passing a test is very different from internalizing the lessons tested.

[–] Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

No test prepared me for black ice. Sure they tell you to be careful when temps drop but how much slower should you go? I guessed wrong and crashed. There are too many conditions that you just never get to experience where one misjudgement has dire consequences.

What fucks me up is hearing about experienced drivers crashing in similar ways, so you're never really going to figure out everything, especially during snowy seasons, you just have to hope that whatever you do is correct and risk your life.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 3 points 19 hours ago

I learned to drive in Florida. Saw my first snow while driving five years later, I was trying to take a (rented) front wheel drive minivan out to get breakfast and about 5" of snow had fallen overnight. I put it in drive and it barely moved. I cut the wheel and it moved a little, I cut the wheel back and it moved a little more. I tried saw-toothing the steering left and right and got up a little speed, finally getting up to about 5mph while sawing the wheel back and forth. I drove around the parking lot like this, twice, before deciding: people do this all the time, it has to get easier after I get going... as I started toward the exit, I noticed: the parking brake was on, I had been dragging the locked rear wheels around the parking lot behind me. I released the parking brake and driving in snow became 100x easier from there on out.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How about less reliance on cars in the first place?

Americans seem to think of buses as some sort of commie plot.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Buses, as implemented in the US, are vehicles of humiliation and mental torture. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZkouut-9RQ

How to waste an entire day? Take a bus trip somewhere that you could drive in a private car in 20 minutes.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Or on your motorcycle in 15.

Everyone with the usual compliment of legs should be forced to start on a motorcycle or moped. After 2 years of that we let you graduate to being in a box. Riding a motorcycle will force you to learn how to remain attentive and focused 100% on operating your machine, and when you're finally afforded the luxury of a roof and heat, not having to get rained and snowed on half the year, you'll really appreciate what you've got instead of treating it like the world owes you a car.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Lifetime care for the additional seriously injured will be very expensive...

I live in a retirement center, here it is very obvious that driving licenses should be revoked when vision, reflexes and other driving skills reach the level of the average 75 year old. But, since the majority of voters here are retirees- instead they keep making it easier for the extremely elderly to keep driving themselves - because, of course the world can't take their freedom of movement away from them.

[–] ManOMorphos@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

In the US, it seems supporting policies that make the elderly retake the driving exam is complete political suicide. There is a good reason for it and it would keep people safe, but there's no chance of it happening while the population that mostly votes is old.

[–] Corn@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Im not sure how true that is, at least FL requires you to renew your license more frequently as you get older. Idk if its just a vision test though.

[–] ManOMorphos@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I may be biased from seeing what I see in my state, lol. Families have to beg them to stop driving after they crash into a building, no political will exists to change things. There's more states than I thought that require additional driving exams, at least in certain circumstances.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I propose the following amendment, then: If you cause harm to a two wheeled rider due to negligence and/or belligerence, you get busted down to a Vespa for a further 5 years.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 16 hours ago

Nice thought, but how will the rich demonstrate their status from a Vespa? Perhaps by paying off the judge so they don't get restricted?

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago

Maybe introducing driving lessons on the read and done by professionals all over the world would already change a lot. That and the introduction of better road systems like roundabouts, reducing road traffic by adding public transport and walkable/bikeable area's etc.