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That's like saying "I'm pro-life and anti-gun control".

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Edit: Guy confirmed that he is, indeed, pro-life and anti-gun control.

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 4 points 6 days ago (9 children)
[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (8 children)

The cycling infrastructure in Switzerland is good, but the Netherlands are on a whole different level.

The video is ok, but contains incorrect information. Fines aren't scaled by income, they're fixed. Only for major infractions that go before a court of law is the penalty scaled.

Also, there is a shot from Bern saying "look people don't cycle when it's unsafe" but what is being shown is the roundabout of the motorway exit Ostring. No one cycles around that as there is no point. Cyclists would bypass that ugly sin from the 1970s.

It's also funny to hear Basel being called a small city, in Switzerland it's considered one of the biggest, like Genève, Zürich, Bern, Lausanne.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

It’s also funny to hear Basel being called a small city

That’s kind of amusing to me as I was recently in an online debate about whether the state of New Hampshire could support passenger rail. It’s a rural state but the population centers you’d connect aren’t all the much smaller.

For posterity: yes it’s worthwhile. Normally (especially in the US) you’d think the population is too small, but

  • the track exists and is still in use
  • three biggest population centers in a straight line and fairly close
  • it’s the same track served by a Boston commuter line
  • the southern part of New Hampshire has a large population of people who work in Boston.

So MBTA could extend one of their lines, on existing track to capture thousands of additional car commuters literally ten miles to the border. And New Hampshire could get useful rail service by paying them to go an extra 70 miles. Zero infrastructure cost and NH doesn’t even have to figure out how to run a railroad

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

All your arguments might be invalid, because:

Rails, even with overhead wire, may be cheaper to maintain than roads in that climate.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I’m not sure what your point is. Are you arguing that Switzerland is cold, snowy and mountainous, or that New Hampshire is cold, snowy and mountainous?

The maintenance cost is a particular blind spot in the US. Maintaining rail seems excessive, because we really haven’t done any in over a century and somehow think it must pay for itself. Maintaining roads is cheap because there’s always money to build a new one and cost is no object. It’s not a sustainable way of thinking.

I had been hoping Detroit’s plight would open some eyes. Among the many problems that city had was maintenance. No one can afford to maintain infrastructure for 1,850,000 on a tax base of 630,000 and still shrinking. It’s a similar deal with our road system everywhere. We build for max population, assuming cars are the only possibility, without considering that people move and that other forms of transportation may be more scalable and maintainable

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah. We should increase surveillance on cars to block freedom 0f movement, and militarize roads for freedom.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That’s your argument against rail?

Or did we slip into the RoboCop universe?

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 54 minutes ago

did we slip into

You haven't been paying any attention, have you?

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