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[–] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I love how you completely ignore how starlink is only viable for ukraine because the US military industrial complex.

There was satellite internet before Starlink and Starlink should be banned for all the 5ghz interference it creates

[–] CybranM@feddit.nu 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I'm ignoring that fact because its mostly irrelevant to this conversation. Would the Ukrainians prefer if it was controlled by a more reliable ally? Of course

"Regular" satellite internet is nowhere near what starlink offers and it's pretty telling you assume it is.

An actual problem that you've not mentioned is the interference with ground based telescopes

[–] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Lol "Starlink is a bad ISP" "BuT wHaT aBoUt Ukraine!!?!?!?!?" "Mostly irrelevant to this conversation" A true lemmy experience.

[–] CybranM@feddit.nu 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You claim "Starlink is a bad ISP" because you think the satellites are wasteful, I disagree since Starlink can provide a global service to areas where it's needed in a way no one else can. I don't know what you find so difficult to understand? "a TrUe LeMmY eXpErIeNcE"

[–] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, it sure can do it in a way nobody else can, the most wasteful way. But I appreciate you shifting the goalposts from Ukraine because being used in war is a reason why it is a bad ISP. See, if a war breaks out and a power can destroy them, we're talking global breakdown of internet via starlink. If a war breaks out on the other side of the world a traditional isp keeps working.

Then there's also the piss poor service, the poor number of total connections, the lack of redundancy, the cost, the ecological damage of launching rockets every week so that someone is the middle of nowhere can jack it with high speed internet, being disabled when a nazi feels like it...

[–] CybranM@feddit.nu 1 points 6 hours ago

Where am I shifting the goalposts exactly?

"because being used in war is a reason why it is a bad ISP", like I said before, I very much doubt the Ukrainians would agree with your take on this.

"if a war breaks out and a power can destroy them, we’re talking global breakdown of internet via starlink" ?? Do you think anyone is advocating we should replace all internet connections with Starlink?

"Then there’s also the piss poor service, the poor number of total connections, the lack of redundancy, the cost," Should I copy-paste about Ukraine again?

"ecological damage" negligent amount compared to actually wasteful industries