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At least this guy seems to care about the people themselves. He's still a dumbfuck but not irredeemable.
He only cares about the people he depends on. It's not empathy, it's self-interest. That's nothing to give him credit for, and there's no reason to believe that he's redeemable based on that.
Was going to start with thinking that, but then watched the video. I'm hearing far more "My friend runs a land scaping business, and he lost 10 or so, he's going out of business". Then comments on how they don't live in a big city and they don't know how they are going to find people to hire. Finally in the last 15 seconds he tears up and says he got to know them as friends and he hates seeing what it did to them and their families.
So yeah... feels like "I won't make money", "I'll lose my business", and "oh yeah they were good people who I hate to see their lives ruined".
Reminds me of a guy who came to my door to get me to sign a survey to stop an ice cream shop from opening up down the street. Except, he started with the argument that he thought would get agreement and ended with the way it would affect him.
He started by talking about how dangerous it would be for children because the ice cream shop was going to be next to railroad tracks.
I pointed out that the kids who would cross the tracks occasionally for ice cream were already crossing the tracks every day to get to the elementary school. He then shared his true reason: he lived next door to the proposed ice cream shop and didn't want to deal with the crowds or trash.
When I suggested his "think of the children" argument was dishonest, he got a bit angry with me. I might have ended the discussion by telling him to fuck off.
He didn't prevail. Ice cream won out as it often does. When we moved here a few years before, the first thing we said when we saw that little building was that it would be perfect for a little ice cream shop.
My comment was deleted for being too hardcore I guess (even though it got upvotes, so at least someone agrees with me). But I spoke zero lies and I 100% stand by what I said.
Regardless, I’ll rephrase in a gentler way: empathy is wasted on these people. They are effectively irredeemable.
I say we dispense with empathy. Casting pearls before swine, and all that.
If we wish to defeat Fascism, we cannot be gentle.
Our grandfathers who defeated Fascism in Europe didn’t do it by being understanding and forgiving. Allied soldiers dragged German citizens to the concentration camps and made them look at it.
Sometimes shaming is exactly what you need to do.
Agreed. They need to pay for this in some way. We may have to use Stalin-esque techniques to get rid of the MAGAt infestation. So, using crypto, we can pay unscrupulous world leaders to host YT men and women in gulags. And their children adopted out to rich 3rd world country residents. How they’d love to have Lilly YT babies. All you need to do is do this to 1/3 of the YT population, and focus on the Trump voting majority areas. YT people want to kill democracy to stay at the top? Well, then they should shoulder the responsibility for this crime.
I think this is one of those pearl clutching communities. Borderline collaboration, but it's their power to enforce their rules.